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Re: [atlarge-discuss] online voting



Is there a debate on this issue?

If there is ok, but I think not.  Ballots are secret.

Releasing results by region is just plain stupid.  Wait until all votes are in
and shut the heck up until they are in.
Dan Blather, Peter whatever and Barbara whoever have no influence here, so
there is no reason to release tallies.

But again, I do not believe there is a debatable issue here.

Eric

Micheal Sherrill wrote:

> I agree.  Secret ballots with safeguards to minimize ballot box stuffing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Micheal Sherrill
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>
> Date:  Sat, 11 May 2002 19:09:27 -0400
>
> I agree with Joanna.
>
>     I have found that a secret ballot is the only way to get most people to
> vote their conscience.  Besides, public voting (or even a dynamic tally)
> influences the vote.  When you can see what others have voted, your
> judgement will be influenced.  This is readily seen in the US election
> process, where East Coast votes are counted and made public before the West
> Coast polls are closed.  We have a global membership to consider, and many
> voters will be sleeping while others are voting.  A secret ballot, with
> results released after the poll has closed, but with full details available
> to everyone, is the only way to go.
>
> Ron Sherwood
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> To: "Bruce Young" <Bruce@barelyadequate.info>; "atlarge discuss list"
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] online voting
>
> > I support the opposite position, for secret ballots. You may live in a
> free
> > society, but others don't. An open ballot is a barrier to entry for many
> > people, not to mention that it is an intrusion of personal privacy. How a
> > person votes is between themselves and their conscience, the exception
> being
> > the votes taken by elected representatives whose duty it is to vote the
> > public interest to the best of their ability. In other words, you don't
> need
> > to know who voted a particular panel member into the job, but you do need
> to
> > know how they are voting on issues that affect you.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joanna
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruce Young [mailto:Bruce@barelyadequate.info]
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:24 PM
> > > To: atlarge discuss list
> > > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] online voting
> > >
> > >
> > > James Love wrote:
> > >
> > > >Do we want public or secret voting?
> > >
> > > I vote for public.  Hard for someone to "flip" your vote if you
> > > can see it!
> > >
> > > Bruce Young
> > > Portland, Oregon
> > > Bruce@barelyadequate.info
> > > http://www.barelyadequate.info
> > > --------------------------------------------
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> To: "Bruce Young" <Bruce@barelyadequate.info>; "atlarge discuss list"
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] online voting
>
> > I support the opposite position, for secret ballots. You may live in a
> free
> > society, but others don't. An open ballot is a barrier to entry for many
> > people, not to mention that it is an intrusion of personal privacy. How a
> > person votes is between themselves and their conscience, the exception
> being
> > the votes taken by elected representatives whose duty it is to vote the
> > public interest to the best of their ability. In other words, you don't
> need
> > to know who voted a particular panel member into the job, but you do need
> to
> > know how they are voting on issues that affect you.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joanna
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruce Young [mailto:Bruce@barelyadequate.info]
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:24 PM
> > > To: atlarge discuss list
> > > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] online voting
> > >
> > >
> > > James Love wrote:
> > >
> > > >Do we want public or secret voting?
> > >
> > > I vote for public.  Hard for someone to "flip" your vote if you
> > > can see it!
> > >
> > > Bruce Young
> > > Portland, Oregon
> > > Bruce@barelyadequate.info
> > > http://www.barelyadequate.info
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > Support democratic control of the Internet!
> > > Go to http://www.icannatlarge.com and Join ICANN At Large!
> > >
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