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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Members' rights



Eray and all stakeholders of interested parties,

Eray Ozkural wrote:

> On Wednesday 22 May 2002 06:10, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > Joop and all stakeholders or interested parties,
> > >
> > > I only wish to start off the discussion on members' rights by suggesting
> > > a few broad meta-articles. The rest of the Charter must fill out the
> > > details.
> >
> >   I didn't see anything in your original post on this thread regarding
> > members rights at all.  I still don't.  Could you please point them out
> > Joop?  What I do see is some ideas/comments as to what members
> > will be restricted in doing or expressing...  That I find to be
> > yet another  form of CENSORSHIP.  And that is fundamentally
> > WRONG...
>
> Any sort of constitution must clearly indicate a set of inalienable rights.

  Exactly right here!

>
>
> I suggest starting with a condition of equality to prevent a group of
> 'powerful' individuals from exerting their influence upon others and an
> unconditional freedom of speech. Paid or not.

  Agreed.

>
>
> An at large organization, as opposed to a tyranny, must be open to dissent as
> the system is based on the premise of change.

  Also agreed.

>
>
> I have no knowledge of an open and democratic society on Internet, therefore I
> conceive that establishing one cannot be through imitation.

  I do.  Hence imitation is not only possible but perhaps preferable...

>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Eray Ozkural (exa) <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr>
> Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
> www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo  Malfunction: http://mp3.com/ariza
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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