Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Thomas Roessler proposes elimination of current voting system for GA

["todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>]

Sorry but  there is a typo in the below paragraph I posted. Derangement is
not what I intended to say - I was looking for Integrated and the spell
checker whacked it.

Todd

----- Original Message -----
From: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>; "Thomas Roessler"
<roessler@does-not-exist.org>; "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
Cc: "James Love" <james.love@cptech.org>; "atlarge discuss list"
<atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Thomas Roessler proposes elimination of
current voting system for GA


> Joanna -
> The problem with Secret Ballots is that they also need an integrity
process
> and a derangement recording system so that it can be proven in retrospect,
> that each vote was conducted fairly and without bias.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> To: "Thomas Roessler" <roessler@does-not-exist.org>; "Joop Teernstra"
> <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> Cc: "James Love" <james.love@cptech.org>; "atlarge discuss list"
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Thomas Roessler proposes elimination of
> current voting system for GA
>
>
> > > To put it into friendly, capital letters: FOR THE GA, SECRET VOTES
> > > DON'T MAKE SENSE.  > --
> > > Thomas Roessler                        <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> >
> >
> > There's nothing friendly about DISENFRANCHISING VOTERS.
> > You stand alone on this one Thomas. I don't hear anybody else shouting
> about
> > how abandoning secret ballots in the GA is a great idea, and you
certainly
> > don't have the mandate to change the GA's procedures without due
process.
> > Please STOP using the weight of your position to spread your personal
> > agenda - the GA Chair should be neutral.
>
>
>
> There is a bigger problem with this. The GA Chair by sheer placement as
the
> arbiter of the charter of the organization is clearly prevented in making
> any changes to the charter and process that they were voted into support.
> Even if the platform was about reform it is up to someone else to submit
and
> push those matters.
>
> This in no way passes any sniff test, and that is for the chair to be
> involved in any motions as other than this arbiter of integrity.
>
> >
> > Also, I certainly took the same meaning as Joop from your statement
about
> no
> > At Large Structures. A less arrogant person would have responded to Joop
> > that they didn't explain themselves clearly, but you, a person for whom
> > English is a second language, would rather criticize and ridicule him
for
> > not understanding your English.
>
> This last comment is a personal value judgment... That is the opinion
stated
> regarding the use of the word arrogant. And I disagree with that those
types
> of remarks belong here on this list at all.
>
> From my perspective, the issue is not your arrogance, that is a personal
> matter. The real issue is whether you have violated the propriety of your
> office by being involved with this motion in the way you are currently,
and
> I think that this is really all that is important here at this time.
>
> If it turns out that this is a breach of propriety it will have to be
dealt
> with as such.
>
> Todd
>
>
> >
> > Have a nice weekend.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Joanna
> >
> >
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