Re: [atlarge-discuss] Comments Invited on Election Details

["todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>]

No Joanna - I think that you must take a response pole and that you must get
a positive permission rather than just a lack of predominant opposition.

This is not a vote otherwise its a wait to see how many of the list members
actually respond, one way or another and if enough members do not respond
negatively...  well that's like saying "I did it because you didn't say not
to" - but the response would be that there was already a vote taken and that
this vote is still binding until a specific will of the people, can be shown
to reverse or extend the deadline.

As it happens I, like you, would vote to extend under these terms, and I
don't have a problem with that personally, but what I do have a problem with
is that from an organizational standpoint I cannot accept that "the lack of
a firm negative" is a positive.

Todd Glassey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>
To: "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>;
<atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Cc: <atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Comments Invited on Election Details


> For all practical reasons the Panel may wish to send a note via the Icann
At
> Large announce list to all 800+ members, soliciting for a 90 day panel
> extension, on the understanding that all duly assigned tasks will be
> completed as early as possible within that extension period and certainly
no
> later than 90 days beyond the current date. If less than a majority
respond
> negatively, the Panel could then reasonably assume they have the necessary
> mandate to continue, rather than be forced to rush something through under
> the gun. Of course we all wish things were progressing rapidly and in a
more
> advanced stage, but since they are not, a remedy needs to be agreed as
soon
> as possible.
>
> Regards,
> Joann
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:15 AM
> > To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> > Cc: atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de
> > Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Comments Invited on Election Details
> >
> >
> > Help
> > Election issues - Questions
> >
> > I invite each panel member PLUS all other interested members to reply
> > to this agenda, with comments on the issues I have raised:
> >
> > 1. date of election
> >
> > + July 23rd-27th
> > + ask membership for extension of mandate and then when?
> >
> > YOUR COMMENTS:
> >
> > 2. Technical administration of election
> >
> > + suggestions for which system to use
> > + security issues
> >
> > YOUR COMMENTS:
> >
> > 3. Verification
> >
> > + who to act as monitors?
> >
> > YOUR COMMENTS:
> >
> > 4. Procedure for nomination
> >
> > + can people self-nominate?
> >
> > YOUR COMMENTS:
> >
> > 5. Period of Statements and Questions
> >
> > + all candidates to submit statements
> > + all candidates requested to answer questions posed by membership?
> > (so that electors can compare answers)
> > + how long should be allowed for this stage of the election process?
> >
> > YOUR COMMENTS:
> >
> > 6.  Election format
> >
> > + global vote for all candidates, with no regional element?
> > + global vote plus regional vote?
> > + just regional votes?
> > + number of representatives to be elected?
> > + number of votes for each member (one or more?)
> > + how long should be allowed for voting?
> >
> > YOUR COMMENTS:
> >
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >
> > Other matters for definition:
> > Define mandate and role of those to be elected.
> > Define length of office before further elections must be held.
> > Discussion on Mission Statement (with final definition left til
> > after election?)
> > Definition of Bylaws necessary to accompany election
> > (with other bylaws left until after the election if necessary)
> >
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >
> > There are other issues upon which the election is not dependent,
> > particularly the issues of Outreach and Regional organisation,
> > which can be evolved in the coming weeks to an extent,
> > but which await further development after the election.
> >
> > What has become apparent is that this 3 month mandate for the
> > Interim Panel
> > is really only enough to establish the basics, and what is now needed
> > is an election for a term of ONE YEAR, which is sufficient time
> > for elected representatives to really get to grips with the
> > growth and development
> > of this organisation. I suggest that this more permanent elected body
> > should really be responsible for the formal definition of Mission
> > Statement,
> > Name etc, because our Interim Panel is so transient.
> >
> > Basically, I believe our panel should "get out of the way" as
> > soon as possible,
> > so that we can make way for a more permanent elected body.
> >
> > Certain problems about timing of election may be raised, such as
> > the Summer
> > Vacation period, and the effect that might have on voting.
> >
> > I personally do not feel happy about extending the mandate of the
> > Interim Panel,
> > partly because we should stick to our terms of election, and
> > partly because
> > I feel we need to get the interim phase behind us as soon as possible.
> >
> > However, if the majority of the panel DID argue for an extension
> > of time before
> > the next elections, then at the very least, I would expect a mail
> > to be sent
> > to every single member with a request for consent for such action.
> >
> > I invite each panel member PLUS all other interested members to
> > reply to this
> > agenda, by filling in comments above (where set out) and replying
> > to the list.
> >
> > I believe it is important we proceed. I believe it is urgent for
> > us to agree on some
> > dates now, because otherwise our 90 day mandate will just run out
> > and I don't
> > think that would be acceptable.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Richard Henderson
> >
>
>
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