Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] ISOC to bid on .org

[eric@hi-tek.com]

Wrong,

They want it but a homeless person can vote in California.  You are sitting in your proper living room and assuming the rest of us live in the same kind of room.  California embraces the inclusive model of
one person one vote with or without an address.  My homeless children in soup kitchens are proud when their moms and dads go and vote.  Anyone can register my church as their address, we will find them and
help deliver the mail.

Those of us working with the homeless help them with email and snail mail and assure that they own an identity that allows them to participate in society.  It may be all they have, or all that we can give.

Hope and being a part of the greater importance is the guiding light of the love which elevates spirits and rehabilitates lost citizens.  In Mexico we proclaim "Esparanza" the hope and dream.

Do not mollify the dictators into a soft understanding of what a right to vote means to people with nothing else.

The same may be applied here.

Sincerely,
Eric
Micheal Sherrill wrote:

> Nope.  California specifically asks one to put down on a registration form where the applicant lives and also a mailing address if it is different from the first line.  Sure sounds like they want both.
>
> Regards,
>
> Micheal Sherrill
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> Date:  Sat, 08 Jun 2002 23:27:15 -0700
>
> Michael and all
>
> Micheal Sherrill wrote:
>
> > An address is needed to prove that one is a resident of California in order to qualify to vote.  One would think this is necessary for most, if not all, states.
>
>   Yes, the same is true in most states.  But not a physical address.
> Residency requirements vary of course with different states in the
> US for registration to vote.  But most states do NOT require a
> physical address, just a mailing address.  Same is true in many
> EU countries, as well as in most of asia..
>
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Micheal Sherrill
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> > Date:  Sat, 08 Jun 2002 21:10:02 -0700
> >
> > Joop and all,
> >
> > Joop Teernstra wrote:
> >
> > > On 09:11 a.m. 8/06/2002 -0700, Kent Crispin said:
> > >
> > > >As you know, in my opinion the ALSC (and the NAIS) simply ignored the
> > > >issues of difficulties with elections, and I have documented that pretty
> > > >thoroughly.  Using domain name registrants doesn't address the issues.
> > > >Domain name registrations can be bought wholesale for $6;
> > >
> > > This possible mass registration "problem" is a red herring that can easily
> > > be overcome by building an initial voters registry that is
> >
> >   It isn't a problem anyway.  Whether registrations are in mass or not
> > is not a relevant valid concern.  Hence hardly worth even discussing
> > or debating.
> >
> > >
> > > 1. based on registrations that are at least 12 months old
> >
> >   This seem to very greatly from you comments and statements
> > in the IDNO as well as the At-Large, Joop.  In any event however
> > why should a registrant/stakeholder/user be required to wait 12 months
> > to vote on issues that would effect them or for representatives that
> > may be in a position that they would determine what may effect them
> > as well?  How can you justify this?
> >
> > >
> > > 2. applies a simple scrutiny process, like the provision of a name and a
> > > residential address, to make reasonably (not 100%!) sure that all voters
> > > are unique individuals.
> >
> >   Good point here finally Joop.  However residential address (Physical)
> > is not required in the US for voter registration, nor is it in a number of
> > other modern democratic countries either.  As such, why should such
> > a requirement be imposed in this situation?
> >
> > >
> > > 3. has a certain minimum number of voters (5000?) to insure against sudden
> > > capture by an organized group.
> >
> >   Well 5000 is not a good number, but yes, a minimum number should be
> > considered...
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Joop Teernstra LL.M.--
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