Re: [atlarge-discuss] Debate

[eric@hi-tek.com]

I agree with you in part of this Vittorio,

That is the question of short term versus long term. I believe it was Karl who
quoted a phrase "we have a long ways to go and a short time to get there" , but
that is the Internet.  We need to build for the future not react to the here and
now.  The theory of the At large community should be to establish itself over
time as the dog wagging the tale, not; in the short term the tale of the dog.

As to the other questions they mostly are just for voter thought and
consideration.

Affiliation is a loose word and is meant to be that way.

On the wanting the job part and what position it is just that sometimes we do
run into people with agendas and need to be mindful, especially if we have been
recruited to join.

Sincerely,
Eric

Vittorio Bertola wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:59:05 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >I would like to know any candidates position on a few matters.
>
> I don't know whether I will be a candidate again, however here are my
> answers.
>
> >1.    Do they think we should continue with a useful purpose outside of
> >ICANN?
> >2.    Should we continue to work in the ICANN arena?
>
> I think this is the main question on the table. Personally, though I share
> the ultimate goal of direct elections, I think we should accept the fact
> that in the current ICANN we will obtain in the short term nothing more than
> what we have been given with the ALAC, and work to ensure that the ALAC is
> in fact created and that its members are chosen by the bottom and not
> imposed from the top. So we should try to cooperate with ICANN at least
> until Shanghai to obtain as much as we can from them. I still think that
> icannatlarge.com should aim to become a sort of "At Large SO" inside ICANN,
> possibly electing the ALAC in full or in part, rather than position itself
> outside of ICANN by refusing to participate in the process it has
> undertaken.
>
> >3.    Should we be electing people that are not affiliated with ICANN?
>
> It depends on what you mean by "affiliated". What do you mean?
>
> >4.    Should we immediately disqualify from the new election anyone who
> >is on the interim panel?
>
> You could do it if you wanted, but then you would really be out of
> candidates, I guess :-) Seriously, I don't think it is the case.
>
> >5.     Who is actively seeking this position?  This is important and if
> >someone lies about it, it becomes more important.
>
> Which position? What really amazes me is that so many people think of
> backsides and second (personal) purposes here. Up to the moment, what I got
> from my Chairmanship is a lot of insults and attacks by some people and a
> thousand euros disappearing from my pockets for the expenses. The company I
> work for does not have anything to do with the domains business more than
> being a registrant. So I really can't imagine why someone would like to be
> "actively seeking this position", unless for personal passion and ideals. We
> can discuss the substance of matters, but I don't think it is the case to
> discuss the integrity of the people, unless you have proofs and facts to
> expose publicly.
> --
> .oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo vb.
> Vittorio Bertola     <vb@vitaminic.net>    Ph. +39 011 23381220
> Vitaminic [The Music Evolution] - Vice President for Technology
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