Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] elections

[eric@hi-tek.com]

Lighten up on outreach until we have a decent organization.
Eric

Bruce Young wrote:

> Jamie Love wrote:
>
> >ICANN itself will not tolerate an at large election process.
>
> Sadly, you're most likely correct.  But it never hurts to give them another
> opportunity to fail!
>
> >Some members of the panel are willing to endorse this as progress,
>
> I wouldn't call it progress at this point.  As I've said before, I judge
> based on actions, not rhetoric.  It's too early to tell whether this is yet
> another useless process like the ALSC to keep everyone spinninmg their
> wheels, or whether it might eventually lead to something good for the At
> Large.  If ICANN shocks us and the latter event occurs, *then* I'll endorse
> it as progress.
>
> >others may feel it a cynical and manipulative effort to undermine the
> legitamcy of elections,
>
> I don't discout this as a possibility either.  But again, it's too early to
> tell.
>
> >and they may want to build up a system for elections, and push to be
> recognized in some way.
>
> As I've said before, reaching out to participate in the ALAC process doesn't
> mean we shouldn't continue full speed ahead on our self-organizing schedule!
> Nor does it mean that we should have a relationship with ICANN to the
> exclusion of all other entities.
>
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon
> Bruce@barelyadequate.info
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Love [mailto:james.love@cptech.org]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:05 AM
> To: Izumi AIZU
> Cc: atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de; discuss
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] elections
>
> ICANN itself will not tolerate an at large election process.
>
> Jamie
>
> Izumi AIZU wrote:
> > Correct me if I am wrong. I don't know out of 6 members remaining on the
> > panel
> > who is endorsing the elimination of elections.
> >
> > I suggested after your resignation to achieve both, bylaws preparation AND
> > election by the original deadline of July 24. There was a discussion yes
> > here to consider the extension of deadline into before Shanghai, but that
> > was not agreed by anyone.
> >
> > In fact Vittorio Wolfgang and myself discussed this lunch time to
> > proceed the election and bylaws mandate be done by the original
> > deadline and that is why I think it is better to ask YJ to join
> > the interim panel unless Jamie comes back to work together
> > which is more than welcome.
> >
> > So, please Jamie, do not vend the fact but make it straight
> > to achieve common goal. But I think we need more resources to
> > make a successful election, rather than criticizing each other on
> > the list.
> >
> > izumi
> >
> >
> >
> > At 10:31 02/06/27 -0400, James Love wrote:
> >
> >   Given the fact that some members of the current "temporary" board are
> > now endorsing the elimination of elections, and will be going to
> > Shanghi, I think it is important to test their support in an election.
> >
> >>    Jamie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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