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RE: [atlarge-discuss] Latin America and Africa
At 21:01 09/08/02, **star*walker** wrote:
At 12:45 PM 8/9/2002, Judith
You want woman's interests?
This woman is interested in having her child
inherit a cyberworld free from Orwellian constraints on liberty and
That means recapturing influence on internet governance.
That's why I'm
Friday, August 09, 2002 * 2:25 PM
My overarching interests as a man, uniquely and specifically a gay man,
are the same as Judith’s.
you may be sure that every human being feels the same. We feel
strangled by what is going on. I do not know why, but I feel the
ERC is leading us towards a big what we do not want. Too complex, too
opaque, too manipulated for us to feel we can get out of it. The trap. A
feeling? may be, but strong.
would add “free from constraints on thought” in the form now popularly
and properly known as “manufactured consent;” and all the various forms,
overt and covert, direct and indirect, of violence or threats of violence
against any and all who differ.
Just want to add something technical about that you will easily
understand. A network is actually made of three elements. Hardware
(lines, machines), software (protocols, DNS) and brainware (the way
you [are made to] use the network). And the more important is the
brainware because of the "manufactured consent" imposed
on you by the Digital Dominance (ATT/IBM/SAIC/VRS? MS WC].
But be sure they also are trapped. They just do their job, it is becoming
too complex so they try to survive in keeping it simple - for them.
Status quo, no difference, etc ... all what you quote
Ford's "any color if black". Just because it is cheaper and
an American I am ashamed of my country that we are the chief
manufacturers of both, suffer the ill affects of them daily domestically,
and that we are now the chief exporters as
Just a minute. This is true. And I am ashamed to have to fight the USA as
if it was an enemy. But please think you are an American too, and there
are a few hundred millions of yours with the same feelings.
The Internet system right now is turning into a trap. For all. Too
complex tobe centrally run. So time is now either the ICANN fades away or
the things go out of control.
They have developed as a commercial bluff ( that an European member of
the GAC qualified of "AmerICANN Joke"). That joke says that the
Internet is all the computers of the world, that it has been developed by
the Arpa team, that the Congress has the right to rule it, that its
namespace depends on the "unique authoritative root" and is to
project the TMs and spying what you do in case you would run MP3
This joke must be exposed. And as an American you will proud of
1. the international network of interrelated packet switch networks has
been created by a small US company named Tymnet. It created the namespace
in 1977 together with the US IRCs and some European PTTs. It brought a
lot of help that way to the development of the world in giving access to
the US databases. It interconnected technologies mainly from France
(Transpac) and Canada (Northern Telecom) and permitted relations with
Australia, Japan etc. all of them sharing though the ITU to develop the
international system with a very active and positive US contribution,
lead by the State Department (Mr. Earl Barberly)..
2. in 1984 the Arpanet network started organizing it connections with
other systems and connected in a very limited way the International
system, registering the domain name "arpa" and getting the old
Netherlands (Philips) coined names "com/net". The Internet
developed under the IETF and the control of Jon Postel, sharing into a
lot of researches the world benefited from.
3. when the web developed (created by Berner-Lee, an English in an Geneva
European R&D Center) the FCC (Judge Green an aficionado of the social
impact of the French Minitel) supported the USG in helping develop the
web. Without the USA we would never have had the development we have
IMHO this makes a LOT of positive things for the USA. You can be PROUD
Now, it is true there are three problems.
1. some people tend to sell what belongs to all (like names) and to sell
2. the ICANN pave the way to the MS take over (cf below) of the human
brainware through the root joke
3. the fear of the terrorist leads to "profiling" and will
justifies everything increasing that threads
These are dangerous things. But there are thing we all to help against
and we all are concerned. You cannot be ashamed that 80% of the world
money feel secure in the USA. MS is a problem for us all, and actually a
challenge, we should all be Bills Gates. Reacting badly to the first
attack ever of its soil by foreign aggressor is a real bad
Certainly not reasons for you to be ashamed.
does all this have to do with Internet governance? If anyone finds it not
self-evident, I'll feel prompted to write an epistle on the subject.
It is so evident!
as an aside (but on point), I wonder what access kids in Viet Nam, for
example, have to such information with the reports I’ve read on this list
of the government’s wanting to be sure that their Internet evolves
socially responsibly? I only single out Viet Nam as it’s been mentioned
here, not for any other reason.
Let me be a little technical again. The centralized root means the
centralization of the URL support. The URL is progressively going to be
the way you control your world. Today you use a 12 keys dial pad.
Progressively we use a 50 keys URL. Controlling the URL is controlling
the world and controlling its directories is to control of the people
using them because knowing what they do (through the DNS) and what they
are and plan to do (directories).
Now let imagine a slightly different scenario. You use the same Internet
but with a small additional plug-in. When you want to resolve an URL
(transform the domain name in IP address) you call your ISP. Here the
plug-in intercepts (as does the New.net plug-in) and send the request to
your own Linux "virtual computer", at an ASP where you resolve
the way you want, with your non controlled DNS+ services.
Is that important? You may now decide you do not want banners but little
flowers. You do not want porn sites to resolve. You may decide that you
build your own protected network system over a few or many computers and
while you are there no one can know what you do and from where you get
out. No more control via the network, the normal life may resume: if they
want to know about you, they send a police officer with a warrant.
Is that complex to do. Yes. Mr. Gates wants to propose you than within
three years. This is the Longhorn project. So you will give your liberty
to Mr. Gates and will pay him every month for that.
Is that complex to initiate. No. This is what we do. This is what I
proposed some to share with and I start receiving help from here. Then it
will up to the GPL people to build on it With many more ideas that
Mr. Gates and the 5.000 developers more he is hiring for that.
Keep faith and hope. But every help welcome!
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