RE: [atlarge-discuss] Call for Assembly of the Constitutional Work Group (K)-WG [1.1]

["Jkhan" <Jkhan@MetroMgr.com>]

Hello Lynn,

It depends on our approach whether or not these are By-Laws or Cannons
of a Constitution.

If the members (Board) of Icannatlarge were to take a path of
Incorporation into an .Org, then the aspect of 'By-Laws' are corporate
by form.

If the members adapt a form of World Confederacy, then a Governmental
Society can be formed, and a Constitution adapted.

Take for example the U.S. 'The Articles of Confederation', this was
essentially the document that drafted the thirteen colonies together
into the Continental Congress and onward to the path of a Constitution.

In the attached document, I have modified The Articles of Confederation,
to address an Internet Government. It is essentially the original
document, I have only replaced words and edited out some irrelevant
sentences. My point in this exercise is that it can be done, in fact
history proves it has. [IT IS ONLY AN EXERSIZE!]

Since the U.S. Congress Dept. of Congress holds the fate of Icann
through the Memo which establishes it. My contention is that we must
create a Governmental Society that not only encompasses the U.S.
Constitution, but includes that of other Nations, it must be relevant to
all Nations. This encompassment is important to the extent that: No
Executive, Judicial, nor member of Congress can refute its efficacy, in
the face of our own US Constitution. (Icann will become unconstitutional
in its wake)

Upon establishing that Sovereignty, The World Internet Congress can
reach Treaties with any Government and administer the Internet as a
Democracy.

Thank you Lynn,

Best regards,
James Khan


Attachment: The Articles of Confederation

Re: THIS IS ONLY AN EXERSIZE TO SHOW THAT, IT HAS AND CAN BE DONE. IT IS
ONLY AN EXERSIZE!

The Articles of Confederation

To all to whom these Presents shall come, we the undersigned Delegates
of the Nations affixed to our Names send greeting.

Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between all Lands and
Nations of the World.

I.
The Stile of this Confederacy shall be the "World Internet Government".

II.
Each nation retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and
every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation
expressly delegated to the World Government, in Congress assembled.

III.
The said Nations hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship
with each other, for their common defense, the security of their
liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to
assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon
them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any
other 
pretense whatever.

IV.
The better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse
among the people of the different Nations in this Union, the free
inhabitants of each of these Nations, paupers, vagabonds, and fugitives
from justice excepted, shall be entitled to all privileges and
immunities of free citizens in the several Nations; and the people of
each Nation shall 
free ingress and regress to and from any other Nation, and shall enjoy
therein all the privileges of trade and commerce, subject to the same
duties, impositions, and restrictions as the inhabitants thereof
respectively, provided that such restrictions shall not extend so far as
to prevent the removal of property imported into any Nation, to any
other Nation, 
of which the owner is an inhabitant; provided also that no imposition,
duties or restriction shall be laid by any Nation, on the property of
the World Internet Nation, or either of them.

If any person guilty of, or charged with, treason, felony, or other high
misdemeanor in any Nation, shall flee from justice, and be found in any
of the World Internet Nation, he shall, upon demand of the Governor or
executive power of the Nation from which he fled, be delivered up and
removed to the Nation having jurisdiction of his offense.
Full faith and credit shall be given in each of these Nations to the
records, acts, and judicial proceedings of the courts and magistrates of
every other Nation.

V.
For the most convenient management of the general interests of the World
Internet Nation, delegates shall be annually appointed in such manner as
the legislatures of each Nation shall direct, to meet in Congress on the
first Monday in November, in every year, with a power reserved to each
Nation to recall its delegates, or any of them, at any time within the
year, and to send others in their stead for the remainder of the year.
No Nation shall be represented in Congress by less than two, nor more
than seven members; and no person shall be capable of being a delegate
for more than three years in any term of six years; nor shall any
person, being a delegate, be capable of holding any office under the
World Internet Nation, for which he, or another for his benefit,
receives any salary, fees or emolument of any kind.

Each Nation shall maintain its own delegates in a meeting of the
Nations, and while they act as members of the committee of the Nations. 
In determining questions in the World Internet Nation in Congress
assembled, each Nation shall have one vote.

Freedom of speech and debate in Congress shall not be impeached or
questioned in any court or place out of Congress, and the members of
Congress shall be protected in their persons from arrests or
imprisonments, during the time of their going to and from, and
attendance on Congress, except for treason, felony, or breach of the
peace.

VI.
No Nation, without the consent of the World Internet Nation in Congress
assembled, shall send any embassy to, or receive any embassy from, or
enter into any conference, agreement, alliance or treaty with any King,
Prince or Nation; nor shall any person holding any office of profit or
trust under the World Internet Nation, or any of them, accept any
present, emolument, office or title of any kind whatever from any King,
Prince or foreign Nation; nor shall the World Internet Nation in
Congress assembled, or any of them, grant any title of nobility.

No two or more Nations shall enter into any treaty, confederation or
alliance whatever between them, without the consent of the World
Internet Nation in Congress assembled, specifying accurately the
purposes for which the same is to be entered into, and how long it shall
continue.

No Nation shall lay any imposts or duties, which may interfere with any
stipulations in treaties, entered into by the World Internet Nation in
Congress assembled, with any King, Prince or Nation, in pursuance of any
treaties already proposed by Congress. No vessel of war shall be kept up
in time of peace by any Nation, except such number only, as shall be
deemed necessary by the World Internet Nation in Congress assembled, for
the defense of such Nation, or its trade; nor shall any body of forces
be kept up by any Nation in time of peace, except such number only, as
in the judgement of the World Internet Nation in Congress assembled,
shall be deemed requisite to garrison the servers necessary for the
defense of such Nation; but every Nation shall always keep up a well-
regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered,
and shall provide 
and constantly have ready for use, in public stores, a due number of
filed pieces and technology and a proper quantity of networks, programs
and equipage. No Nation shall engage in any war without the consent of
the World Internet Nation in Congress assembled, unless such Nation be
actually invaded by enemies, and the danger is so imminent as not to
admit of a delay till the World Internet Nation in Congress assembled
can be consulted; nor shall any Nation grant commissions to any program
or system of war, nor letters of marque or reprisal, except it be after
a declaration of war by 
the World Internet Nation in Congress assembled, and then only against
the Kingdom or Nation and the subjects thereof, against which war has
been so declared, and under such regulations as shall be established by
the World Internet Nation in Congress assembled, unless such Nation be
infested by pirates, in which case vessels of war may be fitted out for
that occasion, and kept so long as the danger shall continue, or until
the World 
Internet Nation in Congress assembled shall determine otherwise.

VII.
When LAN forces are raised by any Nation for the common defense, all
officers of or under the rank of colonel, shall be appointed by the
legislature of each Nation respectively, by whom such forces shall be
raised, or in such manner as such Nation shall direct, and all vacancies
shall be filled up by the Nation which first made the appointment.

VIII.
All charges of war, and all other expenses that shall be incurred for
the common defense or general welfare, and allowed by the World Internet
Nation in Congress assembled, shall be defrayed out of a common
treasury, which shall be supplied by the several Nations in proportion
to the value of all LANs within each Nation, granted or surveyed for any
person, as such domains and the website and improvements thereon shall
be estimated according to such mode as the World Internet Nation in
Congress assembled, shall from time to time direct and appoint. The
taxes for paying that proportion shall be laid and levied by the
authority and direction of the legislatures of the several Nations
within the time agreed upon by the World Internet Nation in Congress
assembled.

IX.
The World Internet Nation in Congress assembled, shall have the sole and
exclusive right and power of determining on peace and war, except in the
cases mentioned in the sixth article - of sending and receiving
ambassadors - entering into treaties and alliances, provided that no
treaty of commerce shall be made whereby the legislative power of the
respective Nations shall be restrained from imposing such imposts and
duties on foreigners, as their own people are subjected to, or from
prohibiting the exportation or importation of any species of goods or
commodities whatsoever - of establishing rules for deciding in all
cases, what captures on earth, space or virtual reality shall be legal,
and in what manner prizes taken by technological forces in the service
of the World Internet Nation shall be divided or appropriated - of
granting letters of marque and reprisal in 
times of peace - appointing courts for the trial of piracies and
felonies committed on the wide bandwidth and establishing courts for
receiving and determining finally appeals in all cases of captures,
provided that no member of Congress shall be appointed a judge of any of
the said courts. 

The World Internet Nation in Congress assembled shall also be the last
resort on appeal in all disputes and differences now subsisting or that
hereafter may arise between two or more Nations concerning boundary,
jurisdiction or any other causes whatever; which authority shall always
be exercised in the manner following. Whenever the legislative or
executive authority or lawful agent of any Nation in controversy with
another shall 
present a petition to Congress stating the matter in question and
praying for a hearing, notice thereof shall be given by order of
Congress to the legislative or executive authority of the other Nation
in controversy, and a day assigned for the appearance of the parties by
their lawful agents, who shall then be directed to appoint by joint
consent, commissioners or judges to constitute a court for hearing and
determining the matter in question: but if they cannot agree, Congress
shall name three persons out of each of the World Internet Nation, and
from the list of such persons each party shall alternately strike out
one, the petitioners beginning, until the number shall be reduced to
thirteen; and from that number not less than seven, nor more than nine
names as Congress shall direct, shall in the 
presence of Congress be drawn out by lot, and the persons whose names
shall be so drawn or any five of them, shall be commissioners or judges,
to hear and finally determine the controversy, so always as a major part
of the judges who shall hear the cause shall agree in the determination:
and if either party shall neglect to attend at the day appointed,
without showing reasons, which Congress shall judge sufficient, or being
present shall refuse to strike, the Congress shall proceed to nominate
three persons out of each Nation, and the secretary of Congress shall
strike in behalf of such party absent or refusing; and the judgement and
sentence of the court to be appointed, in the manner before prescribed,
shall be final and conclusive; and if any of the parties shall refuse to
submit to the authority of such court, or to appear or defend their
claim or cause, the court shall nevertheless proceed to pronounce
sentence, or judgement, which shall in like manner be final and
decisive, the judgement or sentence and other proceedings being in
either case transmitted to Congress, and lodged among the acts of
Congress for the security of the parties concerned: provided that every
commissioner, before he sits in judgement, shall take an oath to be
administered by one of the judges of the supreme or superior court of
the Nation, where the cause shall be tried, 'well and truly to hear and 
determine the matter in question, according to the best of his
judgement, without favor, affection or hope of reward': provided also,
that no Nation shall be deprived of territory for the benefit of the
World Internet Nation.

All controversies concerning the private right of domains claimed under
different grants of two or more Nations, whose jurisdictions as they may
respect such domains, and the Nations which passed such grants are
adjusted, the said grants or either of them being at the same time
claimed to have originated antecedent to such settlement of
jurisdiction, shall on the petition of either party to the Congress of
the World Internet Nation, be 
finally determined as near as may be in the same manner as is before
prescribed for deciding disputes respecting territorial jurisdiction
between different Nations. The World Internet Nation in Congress
assembled shall also have the sole and exclusive right and power of
regulating the alloy and value of coin struck by their own authority, or
by that of the respective Nations - fixing the standards of weights and
measures throughout the World Internet Nation - regulating the trade and
managing all affairs with the Indigenous-Communities, not members of any
of the Nations, provided that the 
legislative right of any Nation within its own limits be not infringed
or violated - establishing or regulating post offices from one Nation to
another, throughout all the World Internet Nation, and exacting such
postage on the papers passing through the same as may be requisite to
defray the expenses of the said office - appointing all officers of the
technological forces, in the service of the World Internet Nation,
excepting regimental 
officers - appointing all the officers of the naval forces, and
commissioning all officers whatever in the service of the World Internet
Nation - making rules for the government and regulation of the said
technological forces, and directing their operations. The World Internet
Nation in Congress assembled shall have authority to appoint a
committee, to sit in the recess of Congress, to be denominated 'A
Committee of the Nations', and to consist of one delegate from each
Nation; and to appoint such other committees and civil officers as may
be necessary for managing the general affairs of the World Internet
Nation under their direction - to appoint one of their members to
preside, provided that no person be allowed to serve in the office of
president more than one year in any term of three years; to ascertain
the necessary sums of money to be raised for the service of the World
Internet Nation, and to appropriate and apply the same for defraying the
public expenses - to borrow money, or emit bills on the credit of the
World Internet Nation, transmitting every half-year to the respective
Nations an account of the sums of money so borrowed or emitted - to
agree upon the number of technological forces, and to make 
requisitions from each Nation for its quota, in proportion to the number
of white inhabitants in such Nation; which requisition shall be binding,
and thereupon the legislature of each Nation shall appoint the
regimental officers, raise the men and cloath, arm and equip them in a 
solid-like manner, at the expense of the World Internet Nation; and the
officers and men so cloathed, armed and equipped shall march to the
place appointed, and within the time agreed on by the World Internet
Nation in Congress assembled. But if the World Internet Nation in
Congress assembled shall, on consideration of circumstances judge proper
that any Nation should not raise men, or should raise a smaller number
of men than the quota thereof, such extra number shall be raised,
officered, cloathed, armed and equipped in the same manner as the quota
of each Nation, unless the legislature of such Nation shall judge that
such extra number cannot be safely spread out in the same, in which case
they shall raise, officer, cloath, arm and equip as many of such extra
number as they judge can be safely spared. And the officers and men so
cloathed, armed, and equipped, shall march to the place appointed, and
within the time agreed on by the World Internet Nation in Congress
assembled.

The World Internet Nation in Congress assembled shall never engage in a
war, nor grant letters of marque or reprisal in time of peace, nor enter
into any treaties or alliances, nor coin money, nor regulate the value
thereof, nor ascertain the sums and expenses necessary for the defense
and welfare of the World Internet Nation, or any of them, nor emit
bills, nor borrow money on the credit of the World Internet Nation, nor
appropriate money, nor agree upon the number of vessels of war, to be
built or purchased, or the number of technological forces to be raised,
nor appoint a commander in chief of the technological forces, unless
nine Nations assent to the same: nor shall a question on any other
point, except for adjourning from day to day be determined, unless by
the votes of the majority of the World Internet Nation in Congress
assembled.

The Congress of the World Internet Nation shall have power to adjourn to
any time within the year, and to any place within the World Internet
Nation, so that no period of adjournment be for a longer duration than
the space of six months, and shall publish the journal of their
proceedings monthly, except such parts thereof relating to treaties,
alliances or military operations, as in their judgement require secrecy;
and the yeas and nays of the delegates of each Nation on any question
shall be entered on the journal, 
when it is desired by any delegates of a Nation, or any of them, at his
or their request shall be furnished with a transcript of the said
journal, except such parts as are above excepted, to lay before the
legislatures of the several Nations.

X.
The Committee of the Nations, or any nine of them, shall be authorized
to execute, in the recess of Congress, such of the powers of Congress as
the World Internet Nation in Congress assembled, by the consent of the
nine Nations, shall from time to time think expedient to vest them with;
provided that no power be delegated to the said Committee, for the
exercise of which, by the Articles of Confederation, the voice of nine
Nations in the Congress of the World Internet Nation assembled be
requisite.

XI.
Canada acceding to this confederation, and adjoining in the measures of
the World Internet Nation, shall be admitted into, and entitled to all
the advantages of this Union; but no other colony shall be admitted into
the same, unless such admission be agreed to by nine Nations.

XII.
All bills of credit emitted, monies borrowed, and debts contracted by,
or under the authority of Congress, before the assembling of the World
Internet Nation, in pursuance of the present confederation, shall be
deemed and considered as a charge against the World Internet Nation, for
payment and satisfaction whereof the said World Internet Nation, and the
public faith are hereby solemnly pledged.

XIII.
Every Nation shall abide by the determination of the World Internet
Nation in Congress assembled, on all questions which by this
confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this
Confederation shall be inviolably observed by every Nation, and the
Union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter
be made in any of 
them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a Congress of the World
Internet Nation, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of
every Nation.

And Whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World to incline
the hearts of the legislatures we respectively represent in Congress, to
approve of, and to authorize us to ratify the said Articles of
Confederation and perpetual Union. Know Ye that we the undersigned
delegates, by virtue of the power and authority to us given for that
purpose, do by these presents, in the name and in behalf of our
respective constituents, fully and 
entirely ratify and confirm each and every of the said Articles of
Confederation and perpetual Union, and all and singular the matters and
things therein contained: And we do further solemnly plight and engage
the faith of our respective constituents, that they shall abide by the
determinations of the World Internet Nation in Congress assembled, on
all 
questions, which by the said Confederation are submitted to them. And
that the Articles thereof shall be inviolably observed by the Nations we
respectively represent, and that the Union shall be perpetual. 

In Witness whereof we have hereunto set our hands in Congress. Done at
Geneva in the Nation of Switzerland the ____ day of August in the Year
of our Lord Two Thousand and Two, and in the First Year of the
independence of The World Internet Government.
 
Agreed to by Icannatlarge.com August XX, 2002. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn [mailto:lynn@ecgincc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:02 PM
 
To: Jkhan
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Call for Assembly of the Constitutional
Work Group (K)-WG

isn't this really the by-laws? I agree, time is short. but be careful to
not make mistakes due to that.  I will help.

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