[atlarge-discuss] Panel votes and voting proceesses was:Re: [atlarge-discuss] No quorum

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Hans and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  For the most part here, I cannot disagree with Hans.  The
only part that I only in part here disagree with is that
" By withholding their vote, panelists/directors can kill
a motion without anyone voting against it."  But Hans is
quite right when he said that this is common diplomatic
behavior.  I personally consider it common BAD diplomatic
behavior...

  For instance, IENGroup BoD does not allow for abstaining
in any BoD vote or withholding of their vote.  This is also true
in any and all of our Committees as well as any task forces.

  INEGroup members may withhold their vote up to 3 times
per year.  There after their voting rights are suspended for a period
of 4 months on the first infraction, 8 months of the second,
and 1 year on the third.  There are NO abstentions allowed
by members on any vote for any motion or resolution.
You must stand up and be counted or face the consequences
of your inaction and lack of responsibility...

Hans Klein wrote:

> Please allow me to clear up some conclusion on voting behavior.
>
> In my experience in serving on boards, many votes finish either with a
> "pass" or with a "no quorum."  People often hesitate to cast a "no" vote,
> because that can cause bad feelings.  By withholding their vote,
> panelists/directors can kill a motion without anyone voting against
> it.  That is common diplomatic behavior.
>
> I believe that the two motions did not achieve quorums, because they were
> not supported.  (We did not at that time have rights to
> "ICANNatlarge.org".  The motions were actually premature.)
>
> So the two "no quorums" are evidence that the Panel is making decisions.
>
> Hans
>
> At 11:19 AM 10/8/2002 -0400, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> >Voting closed on Saturday for the two motions:
> >     WEB SITE MANAGEMENT
> >     ICANNATLARGE.ORG
> >
> >Both motions failed to achieve a quorum.  Neither motion passed.
> >http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-panel/0210/msg00096.html
> >
> >Seems like the Panelists can't even be bothered to cast a vote, or to draft a
> >set of bylaws for membership ratification.
> >
> >Someone remind me... what job were these folks elected to do?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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