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Stephen and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  Normally I would agree with you here Stephen.  But in this particular
instance it is clear that this is not the case.  The association
from the Website listing is pretty clear.  You are very right
in saying that Danny is by his own admission not interested in this
organization.  Which is really what makes this situation very
concerning.

  Joanna on the other hand, although stepping down under fire
as Panel Chair, is still a member, hence I cannot see any
recourse to her speaking or presenting relevant information
at this conference.  None the less, it would seem wise
to me that this organization elect a spokesman or PR
person and/or member to do this sort of function.

Stephen Waters wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Eric said "expert speakers on this groups activities". Speaking "on" a
> group is very different than representing that group.
>
> I seriously doubt Danny would want his name associated with representing
> us. And given Joanna's ex-Chair position, I suspect she'd disclaim the
> same.
>
> -s
>
> On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 03:32, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > Eric and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
> >
> >   It is clear that Danny is, and has stated so in his own words on this
> > forum not at all interested in this organization.  Sure he is obviously
> > interested in some form of "At Large" stakeholder/user organization.
> > But ICANNATLARGE.ORG is not it.  Hence Eric, I think we would
> > not be well served at the conference in NYC by Danny.
> >
> >   Joanna also may not be a good representative either, as she
> > resigned under fire from the Panel as chair for reasons that
> > were grossly unfounded.  Hence, it MIGHT be that she
> > is not a good speaker for US at this conference either.
> > However she is a member, which makes her still a better
> > potential choice than Danny...
> >
> >   None the less in Joanna's case we have no real recourse as to
> > her speaking or presenting anything at this conference in NYC
> > in conjunction with our organization.  However she should have
> > taken the time to ask the membership or at least inform us of this
> > prior to the announcement... Ergo this sort of thing kinda stinks
> > to high heaven, frankly...
> >
> > Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > I am having trouble figuring why Joanna and Danny cannot be expert speakers
> > > on this groups activities.  It appears they are listed as that to me.
> > > Actually they appear to be more listed as experts in the general idea of an
> > > atlarge.  It seems like it would be interesting to hear their perspectives.
> > > I am quite confident they will make clear they do not represent this group
> > > but speak about us only.
> > >
> > > I would be more interested in who claims to speak for us in Shanghai. In
> > > that no one has that authority.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >  Danny and Joanna and all stakeholders or other interested parties and
> > > > members,
> > > >
> > > >   And you agreed to this Danny?!  If so, what ever possessed you to do
> > > >   so?
> > > > Although Joanna is a member, and ex-chair of the Panel, even she
> > > > had no right or authority to do such a thing.  Hence I somewhat doubt
> > > > that she did as you suggest.  Joanna, perhaps you can clarify?
> > > >
> > > >   This sort of thing is very damaging to our creditability Danny.  And
> > > > as such you should contact the organizers of this conference and
> > > > ask/demand that they remove your reference to this organization
> > > > post haste.  This would be the decent thing to do Danny...  I hope that
> > > > you will see to it ASAP...
> > > >
> > > > DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Michael, I am neither a representative nor member of your
> > > >> organization, nor did I set up the link on the website.  It was
> > > >> probably arranged by Joanna Lane in conjunction with the conference
> > > >> organizers to better promote the existence of the organization.
> > > >>
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> > > > Regards,
> > > > --
> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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> > Regards,
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



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