[atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] MOTIONS for a bottom-up web structure as expressed by Wiseman/Khan

["Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>]

I withdraw these motions because I can sense that there is insufficient
interest in them and they will (for the time being) get in the way of other
constructive business.

If we could develop a way of polling our membership on a wider range of
issues I think this would be both democratic and helpful.

Best wishes to our three candidates for Panel Chair, which is basically to
be an unbiased co-ordinator and facilitator.

I concur with what Jefsey says about working to develop local chapters.

Abel, maybe we could meet face2face sometime in (eg) London?

On a separate Icann note, I understand that Icann was scheduled to devote 30
minutes of the Shanghai meetings to the New TLDs Evaluation Process. Did
this actually happen? Where are the details/minutes of this? What is ICANN
now proposing with regard to this Process? What about the NewTLDsEvaluation
Task Force? Is it still in existence? YJ, I think you were on it. Can you
give me any up-to-date information on what is proposed next? Who
chaired/chairs this Task Force? Have the Registry Evaluation reports been
disclosed (as mandated under Appendix U of their Registry Agreements) - or
are they still being withheld by Icann? How can constituencies make an
informed participation in an important process like this if ICANN withholds
central data (now over 6 months after it could and should have been
released)?

Any info on these matters from anyone on these lists would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks

Richard H


Richard Henderson

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
To: <abel@able-towers.com>; 'Jkhan' <Jkhan@MetroMgr.com>;
<atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Cc: <atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 7:33 PM
Subject: [atlarge-panel] MOTIONS for a bottom-up web structure as expressed
by Wiseman/Khan


> MOTION 1:
>
> I PROPOSE that the panel VOTES on the Wiseman/Khan structure for our
> website, as set out by Abel Wiseman as follows:
>
> > The proposed structure would look like this:
> >
> > 1 icannatlarge.org
> > 2. <cc>.icannatlarge.org
> > 3. <group>.<cc>.icannatlarge.org
> >
> > And in addition to that it would leave some room for
> > <group>.icannatlarge.org if the group is representing the worldwide
> > community of that group.
> >
> > Simple, straight forward and a major goal for the real attlarge
> > community.
>
> This structure allows for bottom-up participation in the website, and
> creates a  valuable interface for localised At Large communities to
> participate and contribute.
>
> YES, I vote for the Wiseman/Khan plan
> NO, I vote against the Wiseman/Khan plan
> ABSTAIN, I abstain from this vote
>
> MOTION 2:
>
> I PROPOSE that the Domain www.atlarge.org be freed up to carry out this
> function, if members of the IcannatLarge.org panel prefer this site to
> develop such a construction and interface.
>
> YES, I vote for the domain www.atlarge.org to be freed up and used to
> implement the Wiseman/Khan plan
> NO, I vote against the Domain www.atlarge.org being used for the
> Wiseman/Khan plan
> ABSTAIN, I abstain from this vote
>
> MOTION 3:
>
> I PROPOSE that the membership as a whole takes a further vote on Motions 1
> and 2, if the panel does not vote in favour of these options
>
> YES, I vote for the membership to vote on Motions 1 and 2
> NO, I vote against the membership deciding on Motions 1 and 2
> ABSTAIN, I abstain from this vote
>
> Concluding Remarks: If the panel and/or membership does not wish to
proceed
> with this plan and structure, I offer my domains www.thehumanrace.com and
> www.thehumanrace.info as a resource for those members of the At Large
> community who wish to proceed with the vision for the WHOLE at large
> community. Alternatively, I'm happy to proceed with another domain name
> using this construction. The scope of this site will be not only a
rallying
> point for an At Large coalition, but also the beginning of a new
democratic
> frontier for all internet users, who have the right to determine the
future
> course and governance of the Internet, and also the right to free
expression
> and the development of a democratic voice outside the constraints of
> conventional politics and governments.
>
> The voice of the people - the voice of the human race - can confront Icann
> and can demonstrate the real At Large of users worldwide.
>
> I invite both panelists and ordinary members to SECOND these motions.
>
> Richard Henderson
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Abel Wisman <abel@able-towers.com>
> To: 'Jkhan' <Jkhan@MetroMgr.com>; <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Democracy and it's Borders
>
>
> > I second this proposal and move that the the panel votes on this within
> > the next 48 hours
> > The panel vote should contain the question on whether this should be a
> > member wide vote or whether this is within the scope of the panel's
> > powers.
> >
> > The proposed structure would look something like:
> >
> > 1 icannatlarge.org
> > 2. <cc>.icannatlarge.org
> > 3. <group>.<cc>.icannatlarge.org
> >
> > And in addition to that I would leave some room for
> > <group>.icannatlarge.org if the group is representing the worldwide
> > community of that group.
> >
> > Simple, straight forward and a majot goal for the real attlarge
> > community.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Abel
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jkhan [mailto:Jkhan@MetroMgr.com]
> > Sent: 10 November 2002 06:57
> > To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> > Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Democracy and it's Borders
> >
> > I propose the adaptation of a NSCS (Nation-States Code System) that
> > includes all Nation-States, that means over 400+ unique identifiers,
> > then Sub-Domains for Groups. The point being, lets try to include
> > everyone we can, in anyway they want to be included.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> >
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