Re: [atlarge-discuss] Reimbursement of ALAC-Club Expenses

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric and all,

  I wouldn't go quite as far as to say this mess is a Fraud, Eric.
I would say that ICANN had really few choices.  Joop's
application was bound to be rejected, as he does not represent
ICANNATLARGE.ORG members in any official capacity,
or unofficial capacity.  Hence ICANN had to reject his application.
However by that same token, or for that same reason, ICANN
cannot legitimately justify providing for expenses for andy ALAC
"Club" members/representatives, as they cannot legitimately
say they represent anyone except the "Organizations" to
which are supposed "Members" of the ALAC.  Yet,
ICANNATLARGE.COM not the dotORG version
is listed as one of those organizations of the ALAC
membership.  What a quagmire!  In any event, ICANN
has not impetus to pay for expenses for ICANNATLARGE.ORG
as we are currently not "Organized" yet or still.

  All this said, I personally cannot see how ICANN with
it's already self admitted financial shortcomings can provide
for $33k in expenses to ALAC members for this next
ICANN meeting in Rio.  To me this is a terrible and
intentional insult to the ICANNATLARGE.ORG members
that is seems Bruce missed entirely in his comments on this
subject/thread.

  None the less, I hope that this insult is a lesson to all of the
ICANNATLARGE.ORG members that unless we get organized
these sorts of insults will be frequent from ICANN.

Eric Dierker wrote:

> It is so bogus and so wrong that it stinks of fraud.
> e
> > ICANN!  Paying for At Large stuff?!  Who'da thunk it! :)
> >
> > Of course, it is for their bogus At Large group, so I guess that
> > doesn't actually count.  It is entertaining though!
> >
> > Bruce Young
> > Portland, Oregon USA
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> > |  -----Original Message-----
> > |  From: DannyYounger@cs.com [mailto:DannyYounger@cs.com]
> > |  Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:20 PM
> > |  To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> > |  Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Reimbursement of ALAC Expenses
> > |
> > |
> > |  Reimbursement of ALAC Expenses
> > |
> > |  Whereas, in resolution 03.07 the Board appointed the Interim
> > At-Large |  Advisory Committee to serve, under Article XX, Section
> > 7(5)(a)
> > |  of the New
> > |  Bylaws, until such time as ICANN recognizes, through the entry of a
> > |  Memorandum of Understanding, the Regional At-Large Organizations
> > (RALOs) |  identified in Article XI, Section 2(4) of the New Bylaws;
> > |
> > |  Whereas, the Interim At-Large Advisory Committee has requested
> > |  funding of
> > |  expenses for its members to travel to and from and to attend the
> > ICANN |  meetings in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, in late-March 2003;
> > |
> > |  Whereas, the President has reviewed the request and recommends
> > |  that he be
> > |  authorized to expend, from the 2002-2003 ICANN budget, up to
> > |  US$33,000 to
> > |  cover expenses of the Interim At-Large Advisory Committee
> > |  members for travel
> > |  to and from and attendance at the Rio de Janeiro meeting;
> > |
> > |  Whereas, the Finance Committee has stated that the necessary funds
> > are |  available and recommended that these meeting expenses be funded;
> > |
> > |  Whereas, while of the view that the At-Large Advisory Committee and
> > its |  related structures and organizations need to evolve to become
> > |  financially
> > |  self-sufficient, the Executive Committee concludes that providing
> > this |  funding during the At-Large Advisory Committee's start-up
> > period |  would be
> > |  beneficial to the establishment of an At-Large Advisory Committee
> > that |  effectively fosters informed participation in ICANN by
> > |  individual Internet
> > |  users;
> > |
> > |  Resolved [EC03.3] that the President is authorized to expend, from
> > the |  2002-2003 ICANN budget, up to US$33,000 to cover expenses of the
> > Interim |  At-Large Advisory Committee members for travel to and
> > attendance |  at the Rio
> > |  de Janeiro meeting in late-March 2003.
> > |
> > |  http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-19feb03.htm
> > |
> > |
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Regards,

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