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[atlarge-discuss] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Charter revision commitee
Joop and all,
It is true that the IDNO could be resurrected. But currently in has
no members. Hence is appears that as you are not getting your
way at ICANNATLARGE.ORG that you seem now to only
be interested in resurrecting the IDNO for your own personal
purposes and qualifying as a member of the NCDNHC/NCUC.
That's fine too, but at least be honest about it.
BTW Joop, IDNO.ORG is still registered to William X. Walsh
See:
[whois.opensrs.net]
Registrant:
William X. Walsh
2829 W Ashlan Ave #113
Fresno, CA 93705
US
Domain name: IDNO.ORG
Administrative Contact:
Walsh, William william@wxweb.com
2829 W Ashlan Ave #113
Fresno, CA 93705
US
+1.8006827488 Fax: +1.8006827488
Technical Contact:
Walsh, William william@wxweb.com
2829 W Ashlan Ave #113
Fresno, CA 93705
US
+1.8006827488 Fax: +1.8006827488
Registration Service Provider:
William X Walsh Enterprises, william@wxweb.com
+1.800.682.7488
http://www.wxweb.com/domains/
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 25-Mar-2003.
Record expires on 03-Jun-2004.
Record Created on 03-Jun-1999.
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.MYDNS.BIZ
DNS2.MYDNS.BIZ
DNS3.MYDNS.BIZ
DNS4.MYDNS.BIZ
Joop Teernstra wrote:
> At 01:28 p.m. 25/04/2003, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> >Joop, re:
> >
> ><< I can apply again for membership of the IDNO. The members last voted in
> >favour of such an application. (in 2001) >>
> >
> >A little bit of honesty might be refreshing. There is no IDNO.
>
> When can an organization be considered successfully "killed"?
>
> The members list still exists and any member who has it can call on the
> other members.
> The website still exists and is maintained at its original domain:
> www.democracy.org.nz
> Most of its archives are still maintained on that site , only the last
> mailing list that was taken over by Walsh had its archive taken offline.
> But there are still plenty of copies on members' harddrives, including my own.
>
> Most importantly, the website is getting new sign-ups, so by that criterium
> the IDNO is still alive. All it needs is for someone to call the members
> together again.
>
> Are you for that or against that, Danny?
>
> > The
> >organization no longer exists.
>
> Not so. Its Charter has never been abrogated by a members' vote.
> Walsh' takeover did not kill the IDNO, it only killed all further interest
> to participate.
>
> > It has no members.
>
> Not so. It still has over 200 members who will be very interested to hear
> that William X.Walsh has moved his attention elsewhere.
>
> > It has no active
> >discussion list.
>
> This is true. There is currently no activity other than my updating of the
> website with a few new members.
>
> > It was closed down quite a while ago after the takeover by
> >William Walsh in March 2002 (at which point the archives end) -- see
> >http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/
> Yes, Walsh took over the Domain idno.org , copied the website there and
> got his friend Enger to run the mailing list. This enabled him to shut
> everything down.
> But the Charter still exists and even now still finds adherents.
>
> >If the organization has somehow managed to resurrect itself, perhaps you
> >would be good enough to point us to the URL of its current archives...
>
> I will, when there is enough interest to resurrect it.
>
> >But why attempt to join the NCUC on the basis of this kind of pretense? Why
> >don't you simply use the same pretense employed by Marc Schneiders and
> >others...
>
> Because the IDNO mission is not pretense and it is precisely what I am here
> for.
> It is a lot more to the point than Potters yachting.
> The IDNO also actually voted on the issue of joining the old NCDNHC.
>
> I got these individuals together originally and I can surely ask them if
> they are still interested in reviving the activity and become a member org
> of the NCUC.
> A new mailing list is already waiting for them.
> Why would you want to give one Walsh the power to say that this is no
> longer possible?
> Why, Danny?
>
> -joop-
>
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