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Re: [atlarge-discuss] My Candidacy Information
Maybe you think this funny ha ha Jeff but it not. Your little friend from Jedung Jen you send to house to get you clothes we told her what you really like. We give her box of your black rubber pants and video tapes and send away. She surprised we know your favorites website http://www.latexpajamas.com/rubberthanks.html. You not spend all night on computer doing research you just looking at goats and scuba divers and other things. We tell her you always coming to bed hot and sweaty and want to sleep after computer feeky feeky. What so special about her? I too old because 18? She only 13 know no better. Maybe she have flat screen so better resolution for goat fun? What she got I not have? You make me sad.
I stay home only because baby Jeff need food and love. You not give so I do.
Marriage for 2 months not good. Maybe not get better I think. Mamma say tell you husband who lie not real husband only boy. Are you boy or man?
Ms. Yue You Fidget
Fidget Yue You
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--- Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Jeff H., and all fellow members,
>
> Thank you for your feeling for adding a word or several. However,
>Sotiris has a point as most of the illegitimate candidates are
>unknown to us here and are new members a well as most of them
>were nominated by Jefsey only in this illicit election fiasco of his
>own making. Hence Sotiris's concern although harshly expressed,
>is well founded historically.
>
>Jeff Holt wrote:
>
>> OK, at this point I feel the need to add a word, or several....
>>
>> On Saturday you loosed a barrage of derogatory emails attacking other
>> candidates with sarcasm and disparaging remarks concerning their
>> origins. Up until I read those, I had intended on making you one of my
>> votes. Regardless of past accomplishments, the fact remains as noted in
>> other replies to your outbursts, the failures of the past should be
>> avoided and if this means new ideas from new participants, so be it.
>> The term "newbies" is objectionable and derisive. Some others have also
>> voiced concern regarding new participants in this list. Personally, I
>> joined the ALSG back several years ago and followed the developments
>> only lightly until the disastrous failure of ICANN to include At-Large
>> Directors. Ron's statement is not a "flat out lie" since with this
>> exhibit on your part I cannot imagine others being able to work with you
>> in harmony and commonality of purpose. While I was initially impressed
>> with the regularity of your reading as evidenced by your Return
>> Receipts, this recent series of negative remarks has negated whatever
>> credit you might have had building in my voting considerations.
>>
>> You want proof of your inappropriate words?
>> ----------------------------
>> WHO THE HELL IS MARK POOLE ANYWAY? WHAT CRACK DID HE CRAWL OUT OF?
>>
>> To Gilbert: Who are you and where have you been on this (or any other
>> related list) prior to your being nominated? Do you even know what
>> ICANN is?
>>
>> What rock did this Mauro character crawl out from under, I wonder?
>> ----------------------------
>>
>> If you look at the results of the Verification & Certification Crew, you
>> will find an objective scoring for JUST the existence of the Candidates
>> as far as we have been able to ascertain. The score does NOT represent
>> any endorsement for any candidate, which is a good thing for you sir.
>> You may not be a 'dictator', but it has become very apparent that you
>> are a definite egotist, which is not what this Panel needs.
>>
>> Oh, and you can send ME $1.00 at my PayPal account if you like. There
>> won't be much left to return after they deduct their fee.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> TTTT
>> JeffTTTT@txucom.net
>> JeffTTTT@Hotmail.com
>>
>> www.tejas-info-services.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos [mailto:sotiris@hermesnetwork.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 5:58 PM
>> To: Ron Sherwood
>> Cc: IAL
>> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] My Candidacy Information
>>
>> Ron Sherwood wrote:
>>
>> >Dear Sotiris:
>> >
>> >No one is questioning your experience or the work that you have done on
>> >behalf of the @large community. However, if you expect the rest of the
>> >world to be represented here by persons with only your experience and
>> >history, you will end up with a panel of one.
>> >
>>
>> That's a flat out lie.
>>
>> >Dictatorship may work from
>> >your perspective, but that is not what I understand our goal to be.
>> >
>>
>> Ah the stock label "dictator"... hmm, how typical. Yet, when have I
>> been in the position of actual dictator, I wonder? Please point it out.
>>
>> "Ron" if that's your name, I have to laugh at your "observations",
>> because you have absolutely nothing to show in the way of any WORK
>> produced by yourself (directly or indirectly) vis a vis ICANN, and yet
>> you somehow believe your opinion counts only because you can vote!!!
>> LOL
>>
>> >
>> >Your totally negative attitude towards anyone who does not do things
>> your
>> >way, or whom you don't think worthy of your support, is counter
>> productive
>> >to our cause.
>> >
>>
>> Oh? and what "cause" is that exactly, "Ron"?
>>
>> >Also you are setting a very bad example when you bring the
>> >level of discourse down to one of shouting abuse at anyone of whom you
>> >disapprove.
>> >
>>
>> Shouting abuse? Bringing down the level of discourse? How? When?
>> Prove it.
>>
>> >
>> >Please remember that democracy works better when diplomacy is involved.
>> The
>> >iron fist is far more effective when clothed in the velvet glove.
>> Surely it
>> >is in our best interests to have skilled and experienced members, like
>> you,
>> >gain the trust and respect of those they should be representing. Your
>> >attitude recently has done little to engender that respect, but rather
>> will
>> >cause you lose the votes that you would otherwise gain. Many people
>> are
>> >tired of the un-called for, and vulgar, attacks that are such a
>> turn-off on
>> >this list. It is a shame that you have lowered your standards so much
>> that
>> >you are now one of the perpetrators of this distasteful and destructive
>> >practice.
>> >
>>
>> Prove it. Show us all some substance of my "vulgar attacks"... let's
>> see the messages you're referring to, "Ron". Othewise, your charges are
>>
>> meaningless. Do you hope to smudge me with nothing but smoke?
>>
>> >
>> >Because I do not want this third attempt at a Panel to be destroyed by
>> such
>> >anti-social and destructive behavior, you have lost my vote.
>> >
>>
>> Why don't you save us the suspense and tell us all who you will and
>> won't be voting for overall, "Ron"? What need for a secret ballot for
>> the likes of you? But, I bet you'd be the first to cry bloody murder at
>>
>> the idea of an open onlist vote, right "Ron"? Spare us the indignant
>> retorts.
>>
>> --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>>
>> --
>> -----------
>>
>> "The science of jurisprudence regards the state and power as the
>> ancients regarded fire- namely, as something existing absolutely.
>> But for history, the state and power are merely phenomena, just as for
>> modern physics fire is not an element but a phenomenon.
>>
>> >From this fundamental difference between the view held by history
>> and that held by jurisprudence, it follows that jurisprudence can tell
>> minutely how in its opinion power should be constituted and what
>> power- existing immutably outside time- is, but to history's questions
>> about the meaning of the mutations of power in time it can answer
>> nothing."
>> --Leo Tolstoy, "War and Peace"
>>
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>Regards,
>--
>Jeffrey A. Williams
>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
>"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
> Pierre Abelard
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