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[atlarge-discuss] Jefsey lies again! Execlub.org scam continues....



Jefsey and all fellow members

  In your post: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0305/msg00856.html
Jefsey has lied again and here is the proof:

========== Copied post from Jefsey's EXECLUB.ORG=========
Subject:
        @LARGE ELECTION: Your Ballot
   Date:
        Sun, 25 May 2003 20:21:33 +0100
   From:
        atlarge@execlub.org
     To:
        jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com




ICANNATLARGE.ORG ELECTION - VOTING ID: 2482587ne
============================================================
Please ReplyTo without copy (your mail would be deleted).
Only your first response counts. End of the voted Sunday
June 1st 00:00 GMT.


BALLOT =====================================================
Panel election. Please "X" mark the candidates you support.
The 11 most supported ones will be elected.
In case of a resignation the next in line will be elected.

==>01 2482587ne "X" [ ] Asaad Alnajjar
      (Asia/Pacific-United States)
      http://www.any-dns.com/najjar.htm

==>02 2482587ne "X" [ ] Thierry Amoussougbo
      (Africa-Benin)
      http://execlub.org/thierry-amoussougbo.htm

==>03 2482587ne "X" [ ] Hugh Blair
      (North America-United States)
      http://execlub.org/hugh-blair.htm
      Let's make sure the Internet is available for everyone

==>04 2482587ne "X" [ ] Daniel  Chirita
      (Europe-France)
      http://www.maddanny.com/atlarge/
      let we the users be the core of our future e-worlds

==>05 2482587ne "X" [ ] Bob Crawford
     (North America-United States)
     http://execlub.org/bob-crawford.htm
     Let truth, driven from any other place,
     find refuge here.

=>06 2482587ne "X" [ ] Kristen Doyle
     (North America-United States)
     http://execlub.org/kristen-doyle.htm

=>07 2482587ne "X" [ ] David Goldstein
     (Asia/Pacific-Australia)
     http://www.alfa-redi.org/journalist/goldstein.asp

=>08 2482587ne "X" [ ] James Graham
     (Europe-Mexico)
     http://www.fldm.edu.mx/jgraham

=>09 2482587ne "X" [ ] Catherine Hughes
     (North America-United States)
     http://hometown.aol.com/iantha10/myhomepage/index.html

=>10 2482587ne "X" [ ] William Jones
     (North America-United States)
     http://www.aawc.com/home1.html
     No grandiose promises just simple wish to improve

=>11 2482587ne "X" [ ] Sebastian Klein
     (Europe-Germany)
     http://execlub.org/sebastian-klein.htm

=>12 2482587ne "X" [ ] Curtis M Kularski
     (North-American-United States)
     http://curtis.kularski.us/atlarge.htm
     Supporting Freedom of Internet Communication

=>13 2482587ne "X" [ ] Gilbert Lumantao
     (Asia/Pacific-Philippines)
     http://www.batasayti.freeservers.com/shopping_page.html
     @large: A philosophy of inclusion should prevail.

=>14 2482587ne "X" [ ] Ivonne Valeria Muñoz Torres
     (Latin America-Mexico)
     http://mx.geocities.com/valivmx/index.html
     building a new phase of Internet, are you with me?

=>15 2482587ne "X" [ ] Pierre Ouedraogo
     (Africa-France, Metropolitan)
     http://execlub.org/pierre-ouedraogo.htm

=>16 2482587ne "X" [ ] Dominic Pinto
     (Europe-United Kingdom)
     http://execlub.org/dominic-pinto.htm

=>17 2482587ne "X" [ ] Mark Poole
     (North America-United States)
     http://druk.imperma.net/panel/
     The problem is one of technology not capacity

=>18 2482587ne "X" [ ] Andre Rebentisch
     (Europe-Germany)
     http://execlub.org/andre-rebentisch.htm
     No taxation without representation!

=>19 2482587ne "X" [ ] Mauro Demian Rios
     (Latin America-Uruguay)
     http://internet.aiwh.org/cv/cv.htm
     The Soc. of the Information & e-Inclusion, begin in
     the final user

=>20 2482587ne "X" [ ]
     Jonathan Robin (Europe-France)

http://www.isoc.org/members/vote/2003election/profiles/index.shtml

=>21 2482587ne "X" [ ] Maniam S
     (Asia/Pacific-Singapore)
     http://execlub.org/maniam-s.htm

=>22 2482587ne "X" [ ] Paustinus Siburian
     (Asia/Pacific-Indonesia)
     http://www.ipaust.com

=>23 2482587ne "X" [ ] Sotiris Sotiropoulos
     (North America-Canada)
     http://execlub.org/sotiris-sotiropoulos.htm
     Domain names are the property of their registrants

=>24 2482587ne "X" [ ] Joop Teernstra
     (Asia/Pacific-New Zealand)
     http://www.icannatlarge.com/jteernstra_profile.htm
     Building a Democratic Charter to safeguard
     our legitimacy

=>25 2482587ne "X" [ ] Daniel Tobias
     (North America-United States)
     http://icannatlarge.dan.info/
     Been called Don Quixote of DNS; fights for logic

=>26 2482587ne "X" [ ] James Voorhees
     (North America-United States)
     http://execlub.org/james-voorhees.htm

=>27 2482587ne "X" [ ] Abel Wisman
     (Europe-United Kingdom)
     http://execlub.org/abel-wisman.htm
     My (previous) postings speak of what I stand for.


QUESTIONNAIRE ==============================================
Here are elements to guide the Panel you elect.
Some themes call for you to chose, but please
answer everywhere all that _you_ think apply.


1. an "@large" is
   [Choose one only]
   a Member of :
=>30 2482587ne Y/N [ ] the ICANN community
=>31 2482587ne Y/N [ ] any global internet governance org.
   or is:
=>32 2482587ne Y/N [ ] mainly a domain name registrant
=>33 2482587ne Y/N [ ] a concerned user
=>34 2482587ne Y/N [ ] a common Internet user


2. you want our organization to be:
   [Choose one only]
=>35 2482587ne Y/N [ ] centralized
=>36 2482587ne Y/N [ ] central federal umbrella
=>37 2482587ne Y/N [ ] an alliance of @large organizations


3. our membership is diverse - should we
   [Answer all that apply]
=>38 2482587ne Y/N [ ] have a single organization
=>39 2482587ne Y/N [ ] unit member organizations
=>40 2482587ne Y/N [ ] have national members associations
=>41 2482587ne Y/N [ ] have specialized member organizations
=>42 2482587ne Y/N [ ] have parties
=>43 2482587ne Y/N [ ] have lists in different languages
=>44 2482587ne Y/N [ ] have an at-large site ring?
=>45 2482587ne Y/N [ ] have an at-large spokeman?


4. we elect a Panel, should it mostly be a:
   [Choose one only]
=>46 2482587ne Y/N [ ] decision structure
=>47 2482587ne Y/N [ ] a catalyst using motions and MoUs


5. such a Panel should:
   [Choose one only]
=>48 2482587ne Y/N [ ] be a "do-it-all" Panel
=>49 2482587ne Y/N [ ] administer specialized committees
=>50 2482587ne Y/N [ ] liaise with responsible committees


6. the web site is important to our image, should it be:
   [Answer all that apply]
=>51 2482587ne Y/N [ ] controled by the Panel
=>52 2482587ne Y/N [ ] independently managed by news pros
=>53 2482587ne Y/N [ ] include committee controlled subsites


7. if we have committees should they:
   [Answer all that apply]
=>54 2482587ne Y/N [ ] be chosen by the Panel
=>55 2482587ne Y/N [ ] be self selected
=>56 2482587ne Y/N [ ] be elected by the Members
=>57 2482587ne Y/N [ ] completed by open working groups
=>58 2482587ne Y/N [ ] organize an open deddicated maillist


8. please indicate the committees areas of responsibility:
   [Answer all that apply]
=>59 2482587ne Y/N [ ] membership
=>60 2482587ne Y/N [ ] constitution (incorporation, charter)
=>61 2482587ne Y/N [ ] polling
=>62 2482587ne Y/N [ ] executive (ext.relations, positions)
=>63 2482587ne Y/N [ ] finance
=>64 2482587ne Y/N [ ] website
=>65 2482587ne Y/N [ ] management of xxx.atlarge.ws sub-DNs
=>66 2482587ne Y/N [ ] press and public relations
=>67 2482587ne Y/N [ ] legal
=>68 2482587ne Y/N [ ] mailing list sergeant at arms
=>69 2482587ne Y/N [ ] ID control
=>70 2482587ne Y/N [ ] World Summit on Information Society
=>71 2482587ne Y/N [ ] user systems technology


9. after committees and structure are established
   [Choose one only]
=>72 2482587ne Y/N [ ] the Panel should be reelected
=>73 2482587ne Y/N [ ] should maintain stability for one year
   [Choose one only]
=>74 2482587ne Y/N [ ] next Panel should count 11 Members
=>75 2482587ne Y/N [ ] next Panel should count  9 Members
=>76 2482587ne Y/N [ ] next Panel should count  7 Members
=>77 2482587ne Y/N [ ] next Panel should count  5 Members


10. some organizational best practices
    [Answer all that apply]
=>78 2482587ne Y/N [ ] we need a committee coordination list
=>79 2482587ne Y/N [ ] only watchdogs cannot be a candidate
=>80 2482587ne Y/N [ ] Polling Officers can be reelected
=>81 2482587ne Y/N [ ] Self Nominations are permitted


11. we have to organize our democracy. Should we have:
    [Answer all that apply]
=>82 2482587ne Y/N [ ] the WGs open to all and proposing
=>83 2482587ne Y/N [ ] committees elected and documenting
=>84 2482587ne Y/N [ ] major motions voted by members
=>85 2482587ne Y/N [ ] the Panel arbitrating conflicts
=>86 2482587ne Y/N [ ] an on-going monthly questionnaire


12. our votes or monthly questionnaire will concern:
    [Answer all that apply]
=>87 2482587ne Y/N [ ] elections
=>88 2482587ne Y/N [ ] votes on motions
=>89 2482587ne Y/N [ ] straw polls on maters of interest
=>90 2482587ne Y/N [ ] answers to influence the net industry


13. the votes should be announced by email permitting:
     [Answer all that apply]
=>91 2482587ne Y/N [ ] to click and vote (online)
=>92 2482587ne Y/N [ ] to mark and reply (offline)
=>93 2482587ne Y/N [ ] to access decision documenting links
=>94 2482587ne Y/N [ ] reminders should be sent


14. relations with external entities - should we have:
     [Answer all that apply]
=>95 2482587ne Y/N [ ] a WG per type of external relations
=>96 2482587ne Y/N [ ] relations with ICANN
=>97 2482587ne Y/N [ ] presence in the ICANN's RALO process
=>98 2482587ne Y/N [ ] relations with ccTLDs
=>99 2482587ne Y/N [ ] relations with community SLDs
=>A0 2482587ne Y/N [ ] an interface with the GAC
=>A1 2482587ne Y/N [ ] an interface with ITU


15. to protect the ownership of our list, web site, DN. we
    need to incorporate. Should we:
     [Answer all that apply]
=>A2 2482587ne Y/N [ ] look for more than a shell structure
=>A3 2482587ne Y/N [ ] consider the tax exemption aspects
=>A4 2482587ne Y/N [ ] chose USA for tax exemption
=>A5 2482587ne Y/N [ ] chose France no tax no paperwork
=>A6 2482587ne Y/N [ ] run a comparative questionnaire


16. we need some organization culture
     [Answer all that apply]
=>A7 2482587ne Y/N [ ] resignations: next in line takes over
=>A8 2482587ne Y/N [ ] next in line: maximum 2/3 of the list
=>A9 2482587ne Y/N [ ] quorum: 2/3 of the committee member
=>B0 2482587ne Y/N [ ] committee: one second calls a vote
=>B1 2482587ne Y/N [ ] membership: ten seconds call a vote
=>B2 2482587ne Y/N [ ] WG: only members may participate
=>B3 2482587ne Y/N [ ] Members: must be identified persons


17. as an @large member do you want to be involved in WG on:
    [Answer all that apply]
=>B4 2482587ne Y/N [ ] DN registrant rights protection
=>B5 2482587ne Y/N [ ] privacy protection
=>B6 2482587ne Y/N [ ] e-environment human rights
=>B7 2482587ne Y/N [ ] digital divide
=>B8 2482587ne Y/N [ ] kid protection
=>B9 2482587ne Y/N [ ] wi-fi right protection
=>C0 2482587ne Y/N [ ] community/specialized SLD interests
=>C1 2482587ne Y/N [ ] small business constituency
=>C2 2482587ne Y/N [ ] Uniname (http://uniname.org)
=>C3 2482587ne Y/N [ ] internationalized domain names
=>C4 2482587ne Y/N [ ] multilingual domain names
=>C5 2482587ne Y/N [ ] IPv6
=>C6 2482587ne Y/N [ ] RIRs
=>C7 2482587ne Y/N [ ] new generation networks
=>C8 2482587ne Y/N [ ] use of languages in governance orgs.
=>C9 2482587ne Y/N [ ] user technical interests protection
=>D0 2482587ne Y/N [ ] local communities outreach and action
=>D1 2482587ne Y/N [ ] new types of Internet usage
=>D2 2482587ne Y/N [ ] atlarge.ws sub-namespace management
=>D3 2482587ne Y/N [ ] atlarge.ws sub-namespace servicing
=>D4 2482587ne Y/N [ ] DNS evolution
=>D5 2482587ne Y/N [ ] an ITU WG on the Internet
=>D6 2482587ne Y/N [ ] World Submit on Information Society
=>D7 2482587ne Y/N [ ] Web Site management
=>D8 2482587ne Y/N [ ] @large public relations
=>D9 2482587ne Y/N [ ] @large political lobbying actions

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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard
================================================================
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801



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