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Re: Re: [atlarge-discuss] verification committee



Not fair and tooooo costly for some in some places.
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> I would advise that this org offers a range of methods of verification
> to me mbers (or the option *not* to verify, if they don't want voting
> rights).
> 
> I would suggest one reasonably good method would be along the lines of
> the B ritish Passport endorsement, where passport applicants have to
> get their app lication forms witnessed by a verifiable individual with
> some kind of recogn ised status in society.
> 
> For example, one option for At Large members would be to offer the
> contact d etails of a local headteacher, doctor, judge, etc who could
> undoubtedly be v erified as genuine. If these identifiable people
> endorsed the true identity of the applicant, then that would probably
> be enough for me, unless the memb er gave us subsequent grounds for
> suspecting something was wrong.
> 
> Of course, Thawte etc could also be options as well. I think the
> important t hink is to allow some kind of choice, and as much ease as
> possible. Also I t hink we will lose four fifths of potential
> applicants if we *insist* on veri fication at the point of joining.
> Many sympathetic people, who might grow mo re involved with us, will
> simply be too busy to want the hassle of a verific ation process at the
> "impulse" point when their hearts say - 'Yeah, I identi fy with this,
> I'll join.' Many people simply are too busy to want to get lan ded with
> verification right away. They'll just surf on by.
> 
> I advocate an "open door" policy to membership, with a range of
> subsequent o ptions for those who want to get actually involved with
> voting rights. And a s you imply, Jan, we should be able to keep it
> simple and relatively low-tec h.
> 
> Yrs,
> 
> Richard Henderson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jan Siren <sirenj@earthlink.net>
> To: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:48 PM
> Subject: VC: Re: [atlarge-discuss] verification committee
> 
> 
>> Joanna Lane wrote:
>> >
>> > Bruce,
>> > It's too early to say exactly what hoops the members will have to
>> > jump through, but one idea under discussion is the Web Of Trust
>> > system at www.thawte.com. Some feedback from the membership about
>> > that would be helpful, even putting yourself through the process.
>> >
>> > On a general note: if you want to address the Verification Committee
>> > specifically and since we don't have a separate list where you can
>> > post, probably the best way to reach us is to post here with "VC:"
>> > in subject line, then we'll know it is addressed to us. I can't
>> > speak for others, b
> ut
>> > I'm certainly monitoring this list and will pick up anything
>> > relevant an
> d
>> > draw it to the attention of the VC.
>>
>> Let's get some perspective on this.  Do you recall the (late,
>> lamented) At-Large election conducted by ICANN?  For that election,
>> bone fides were established via e-mail, with the physical address
>> confirmed by first-class
> ,
>> surface snail mail.  And I am personally willing to endure up to that
>> leve
> l
>> of bureaucratic red tape once again, even to the point of paying for
>> international first-class postage both ways (if some means could be
>> found
> to
>> implement that, so as to minimize the costs for the organization). 
>> But I find myself reluctant to "jump through hoops" beyond that level.
>>  I have t
> o
>> go through much of this at my work - I was just issued a Combined
>> Access Card, a "CAC," in order to continue to have access to DOD
>> facilities, computers, and e-mail; don't ask the steps involved - but
>> my employer pays the costs involved, including my salary for the time
>> it takes me.
>>
>> My point is, when it gets personal, I have to do a cost-benefit
>> analysis. And that applies to every single member, or prospective
>> member of this organization.
>>
>> The VC must ask itself:
>>
>> If snail mail verification is sufficient, what kind of membership do
>> we achieve?  PayPal?  Thawte?
>>
>>
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