[FYI] (Fwd) FC: More on Germany pressuring ISPs to block "offensive" sites

["Axel H Horns" <horns@ipjur.com>]

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From:           	Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
Subject:        	FC: More on Germany pressuring ISPs to block "offensive" sites
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From: "Bettina Jodda (Twister)" <twister@stop1984.com>
To: declan@well.com
Subject: Censorship in Germany -----erm, pardon: Protecting Germans
against evil sites Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:35:14 +0200

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Hi, Declan
Hi, John

after reading the summary of the Northrhine-Westfalia case
(censorship regarding the right-wing sites)
I could not help but send you the following news:

German provider QSC (QSC.de) protects his customers against that evil
site www.stormfront.org by faking the DNS record. QSC´s nameserver is
cns01.qsc.de (213.148.129.10).

So when you try to access www.stormfront.org (original IP
216.12.219.26)
  you end up at the following site:
www.bezreg-duesseldorf.nrw.de (193.159.218.178)

See also the following entry in our discussion board:
http://f25.parsimony.net/forum63036/messages/9495.htm

Twister




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From: "Lothar Kimmeringer" <lothar@kimmeringer.de>
To: "Declan McCullagh" <declan@well.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:50:52 +0200

http://heise.de/newsticker/data/wst-13.09.02-000/ (german)

QSC, a german-wide operating internet-provider, is forced by
the local government of Dusseldorf to deny access to two
websites containing material that is forbidden in germany.

Because of this all QSC's customers can't access these websites,
not only the customers in the Dusseldorf-area. Because the ban
is realized with answering DNS-requests with a different IP,
it's not very hard to get around the ban. Interesting about that
is that the responded IP for a request of a banned web-site is
the website of the local government of Dusseldorf allowing them
to find out who is trying to get access to these websites.


Regards, Lothar

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