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Re: [ICANN-EU] Re: Re-opening the funding debate
- To: aha@uninett.no (Alf Hansen)
- Subject: Re: [ICANN-EU] Re: Re-opening the funding debate
- From: icann@LF.net (Kurt Jaeger auf Mailinglisten)
- Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 19:48:37 +0200 (CEST)
- Cc: icann@LF.net (Kurt Jaeger auf Mailinglisten), icann-europe@fitug.de, sg@iccwbo.org, jeanette@medea.wz-berlin.de, andy@ccc.de, Olivier.Muron@wanadoo.fr, oliver@marnet.mk, schueller@phone.berkom.de
- Comment: This message comes from the icann-europe mailing list.
- In-Reply-To: <39D7ACD2.A844EEF6@uninett.no> from "Alf Hansen" at Oct 01, 2000 11:29:54 PM
- Sender: owner-icann-europe@fitug.de
Hi!
> You are right, there is a need for funding of an At-Large structure. And
> I think a European (and Asian/Pacific, etc.) ICANN office with staff is
> a good idea.
Good.
> However I do not think it is a good idea to let a Regional Board member
> be responsible for setting up some local funding mechanisms of his own,
> and decide how these money should be used.
I also see this as a problem. Given the very short time constraints,
its a best-effort issue. The european ALM can finetune this
in the future, but for this event, it has to act very, very
fast to stay on top of the events.
> Regional ICANN branches must be established based on funds on the ICANN
> budget.
For the future: Yes. For now, it is helpfull to the self-gouvernance
of the internet if especially the european users see the need to
also pay as they go. It is supposed to be a though-provoking experiment,
not a balcanizing one.
> If we
> do that right, there will be someone out there willing to pay something
> for the infrastructure. For example a membership fee for each individual
> member and/or Government sponsorship.
I am involved in billing and accounting at my company.
Small membership fees are not sustainable over a large european
audience due to transaction fees. Large ones select too much.
It *would* be nice, but not very soon.
In the very "etatistic" european theater, govt. money often comes bundled
with deficits in process and transparency. We will not fix this
very soon.
> I do not believe in ICANN At Large as a charity organisation begging for
> money.
I do not like it, either. Lets describe it as "demanding money in the
public interest", this should better describe the process.
For now, funding is bridging gaps in the current setup. We have
to modify this, but for now we have to work on it.
--
MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 20 years to go !
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