FWD: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] ISOC to bid on .org

["Micheal Sherrill" <micheal@beethoven.com>]

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Micheal Sherrill" <micheal@beethoven.com>
Reply-To: <micheal@beethoven.com>
Date:  Sun,  9 Jun 2002 22:12:01 -0400


Actually, we may be pushing the discussion beyond the original issue.  My initial comments were in defense of Joop Teernstra’s line item number 2 below concerning the use of physical addresses to authenticate online voters.  I agree with Joop.  If local, state, and federal elections can depend on real addresses (as opposed to IP addresses) then it would probably suffice for us with our elections.

Regards,


Micheal Sherrill


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
Date:  Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:30:09 -0700

Don't forget what county and district they are a part of.

Todd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Micheal Sherrill" <micheal@beethoven.com>
To: <micheal@beethoven.com>; "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>; <discuss@icann-ncc.org>;
"gen full" <ga-full@dnso.org>; "atlarge discuss list"
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Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] ISOC to bid on .org


> Nope.  California specifically asks one to put down on a registration form
where the applicant lives and also a mailing address if it is different from
the first line.  Sure sounds like they want both.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Micheal Sherrill
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> Date:  Sat, 08 Jun 2002 23:27:15 -0700
>
> Michael and all
>
> Micheal Sherrill wrote:
>
> > An address is needed to prove that one is a resident of California in
order to qualify to vote.  One would think this is necessary for most, if
not all, states.
>
>   Yes, the same is true in most states.  But not a physical address.
> Residency requirements vary of course with different states in the
> US for registration to vote.  But most states do NOT require a
> physical address, just a mailing address.  Same is true in many
> EU countries, as well as in most of asia..
>
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Micheal Sherrill
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> > Date:  Sat, 08 Jun 2002 21:10:02 -0700
> >
> > Joop and all,
> >
> > Joop Teernstra wrote:
> >
> > > On 09:11 a.m. 8/06/2002 -0700, Kent Crispin said:
> > >
> > > >As you know, in my opinion the ALSC (and the NAIS) simply ignored the
> > > >issues of difficulties with elections, and I have documented that
pretty
> > > >thoroughly.  Using domain name registrants doesn't address the
issues.
> > > >Domain name registrations can be bought wholesale for $6;
> > >
> > > This possible mass registration "problem" is a red herring that can
easily
> > > be overcome by building an initial voters registry that is
> >
> >   It isn't a problem anyway.  Whether registrations are in mass or not
> > is not a relevant valid concern.  Hence hardly worth even discussing
> > or debating.
> >
> > >
> > > 1. based on registrations that are at least 12 months old
> >
> >   This seem to very greatly from you comments and statements
> > in the IDNO as well as the At-Large, Joop.  In any event however
> > why should a registrant/stakeholder/user be required to wait 12 months
> > to vote on issues that would effect them or for representatives that
> > may be in a position that they would determine what may effect them
> > as well?  How can you justify this?
> >
> > >
> > > 2. applies a simple scrutiny process, like the provision of a name and
a
> > > residential address, to make reasonably (not 100%!) sure that all
voters
> > > are unique individuals.
> >
> >   Good point here finally Joop.  However residential address (Physical)
> > is not required in the US for voter registration, nor is it in a number
of
> > other modern democratic countries either.  As such, why should such
> > a requirement be imposed in this situation?
> >
> > >
> > > 3. has a certain minimum number of voters (5000?) to insure against
sudden
> > > capture by an organized group.
> >
> >   Well 5000 is not a good number, but yes, a minimum number should be
> > considered...
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Joop Teernstra LL.M.--
> > >    interim webmaster
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> > Regards,
> > --
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