Re: [atlarge-discuss] Questions for candidate Jeff Williams

["Micheal Sherrill" <micheal@beethoven.com>]

Hello Jeff:

So, you will not provide any URL for any of your supposedly many regional Websites of constituent members nor will you point to any substantiation of other people alluding to UNEGroup other than to your own articles and your own submissions to various forums.  Because I demand that you prove that you are real you state that I am visceral and you shall not answer.  That will not work with icannatlarge, Jeff.  You have to show proof that you are, indeed, a person named Jeff Williams, with an organization called INEGroup that can proudly show the world a membership roll of 124K email addresses.  Anything else is all in your mind.  Your only response so far has been to either get smarmy with those that question your honesty or to camouflage any direct answers with doubletalk.  And if that does not work, you switch tactics and act like you are above all this confrontation.  Too bad.

That does not mean I am going to go away.  You appear to be a shell of a person that is trying to fill oneself out via the Internet.  You will have difficulty doing so at icannatlarge.com.  Every time you latch on to another unsuspecting newcomer to this organization thinking you can ingratiate yourself with them and convince them you are a real person, a real spokesman for a real group of Internet stakeholders, I will be more than happy to provide a thread that proves otherwise.   You need to do something else with your life, Jeff, other than trying to convince people to vote for a non-entity into this organization.

By the way, every time I disagree with Jeff Williams through this forum I am immediately deluged with subscriptions to online porno magazines, porno newsletters, and such.  Each and every one of these sites claim that I have already joined using my email address.  Does anyone else that opposes Jeff Williams online have this problem?

Regards,


Micheal Sherrill


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
Date:  Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:52:33 -0700

Michael and all stakeholders or other interested parties,

  I am sorry you did not like my answers to Danny's questions and
your single inquiry.  However given the nature of your follow-up
response below, I feel it is pointless to address such visceral
an attitude.  Hence I shall not do so.

Micheal Sherrill wrote:

> Hello Jeff:
>
> You are only fooling yourself if you think that syrupy pleasantries and smilies are the proper way to answer those that think you are a sham.  You have side stepped every question asked of you by Danny Younger with fuzzy answers and glib comments which lack actual data other than old pointers and one or two email address of alleged board members that you state will just refer any INEGroup questions to you anyway.  These are not answers Jeff, these are indications that you and your organization exist only in one person’s head, yours.
>
> The only light you see is that of an oncoming train.
>
> Regards,
>
> Micheal Sherrill
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> Date:  Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:27:47 -0700
>
> Micheal and all stakeholders or other interested parties,
>
>   We have been in the light of day for several years Michael.
> But I appreciate you interest.  Thank you for it!
> See:http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/proposals/ineginc/ineginc.htm
>
> Micheal Sherrill wrote:
>
> > Hello Jeff:
> >
> > I concur with Danny Younger regarding the need for you to display some coherency about yourself and INEGroup.  I have watched you dodge these suspicions for several months now without showing any real facts that you are a person named Jeff Williams, have any members to represent, let alone 124K, and have the integrity to serve on the panel.  Although you nominated me for this panel I declined because I felt that you lacked verisimilitude.  I did not want to have to try to work alongside the other good members with that type of onus.
> >
> > You need to come out into the light of day.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Micheal Sherrill
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: DannyYounger@cs.com
> > Date:  Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:25:27 EDT
> >
> > Dear Jeff:
> >
> > As you are a candidate for office, it is only fair that the credibility of
> > your statements be considered -- you wrote:  "INEGroup represents
> > stakeholders/users in over 100 countries today.  We are still small at 128k
> > members though."
> >
> > 1.  An organization with 128,000 members can reasonably be expected to have a
> > website.  What is the URL of your site?
> >
> > 2.  With that many members, one would expect your group to have a charter --
> > where may it be found?  Perhaps you could post a copy of it that we might
> > learn from your members' experience?
> >
> > 3.  With so many members operating on the basis of transparency, there is
> > surely an INEG discuss list archived somewhere -- what is the URL of that
> > archive?
> >
> > 4.  An organization as large as yours can be expected to have a Board... who
> > are your Board members and how may they be contacted?
> >
> > 5.  You have claimed that several of your members are also members of the
> > Internet Society of China and that you would be happy to arrange liaison with
> > such members -- who are those members?
> >
> > 6.  Which of your 128,000 members have signed up as members of
> > icannatlarge.com?
> >
> > Thanking you in advance for your elucidations...
> >
> >
> >
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> regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



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