Re: [atlarge-discuss] a legitimate election?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joanna and all stakeholders or other interested parties,

  I as a member of ICANNATLARGE.COM and a believer in
free speech as well as real openness and transparency agree with
Bruce's comments in full.

  I would as a member of ICANNATLARGE.COM find that
questionable characterizations as Joanna has made in response to
Bruce's comment, find it nearly appalling that someone that has
in the past also spoken out for openness and transparency would
now reverse themselves on such a fundamental principal in comparing
the ability of non-members participation as akin to such participation
would constitute a "free for all chat room".

Joanna Lane wrote:

> > From: Bruce Young [mailto:Bruce@barelyadequate.info]
> > Finally, considering how disruptive some of them are prone to be, I
> > sometimes agree in spirit with Joanna's request to keep non-members from
> > posting, but I think doing so would be contrary to the openness we are
> > trying to institutionalize in our organization.  So I would have
> > to disagree
> > with a closed forum.
>
> This mailing list has more important functions than being a free for all
> chat room. Allowing non-members to post has a direct impact on the
> organization's ability to provide valid input to the ICANN process. ICANN is
> built around a consensus process, which requires outreach to the At large,
> including this organization. If our input is going to be credible in the
> area of policy development, it must submit position papers backed up by
> formals records to document outreach that has been undertaken. I don't know
> whether you have ever done one of those reports, but believe me, they are
> hard work and require a little more than wafting a divining rod over a
> mailing list. It requires somebody to go through every single post on a
> topic and provide summary information, identify the total number of
> participants, geographical diversity, results of straw polls and so on. If
> you insist on allowing non-members to post to this list, then the main tool
> used to collate that data is corrupted, making an already difficult task
> impossible.
>
> I would encourage you to set up a freely accessible list in *addition* to
> this one, much like the GA has the GA List and GA-full list, but there are
> no barriers to entry into this organization, so frankly, if a person wants
> to use the list to try to persuade other people to their viewpoint, (which,
> by a vote of the membership could then swing the results), then they ought
> to join properly instead of carping from the sidelines which will become
> increasingly disruptive to the serious work of this group. I would rather
> start off as we mean to go on.
>
> Regards,
> Joanna
>
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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