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Re: [atlarge-discuss] No icannatlarge.com reps on ERC task force



Dear Vittorio,

thanks for your clear explanation, and for your commitment to the
at-large-membership concerns. The facts are now clear, I am satisfied with your
position, but, of course, not with the way in which things were organized by others
- timing, selection, etc.

Thanks,


Norbert



> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:58:28 -0400, you wrote:
> 
> >What does concern me is that Candidates Piniero and Bertola have 
> publicly disassociated themselves with icannatlarge.com by accepting 
> their seats on the Committee as representatives of other organizations. 
> 
> Ok, first of all, let's make some facts clear.
> 
> First, I am the coordinator of the ICANN working group of the Italian
> Chapter of ISOC since well before this group was founded. In fact, our
> Chapter believes in user representation in ICANN; this is why we've
> been supporting icannatlarge.com since the beginning (for example,
> most of the few icannatlarge.com members from Italy come from our
> Chapter), and this is why we've been volunteering all along the At
> Large process (for example, ISOC Italy and I were the main organizers
> of the outreach effort that led 1670 Italians to register for the
> first At Large elections in year 2000). We also volunteered to
> participate in the ALOC, as many other ISOC Chapters.
> 
> So, when icannatlarge.com had to choose its representatives, there
> already were two other panel members (Sotiris and Satyajit) who wanted
> to do it. As I knew that I would anyway have had to represent my
> Chapter, it seemed better to me not to be the icannatlarge.com
> representative too, so that we could in the end have one more
> icannatlarge.com member in the ALOC.
> 
> Second, a call was issued in the ALOC for members of this task force.
> It was issued with the usual hurried timeline (Friday afternoon for
> Monday morning). Anyway, the people in the task force, plus Hans
> Klein, answered by the deadline. Then, on Monday morning Denise Michel
> announced the composition of the task force, and ten minutes later
> Sotiris replied to her message asking to be included too. As I already
> said, I can't see no reason why Sotiris should not be included, anyway
> it seems that Denise has not accepted his reply due to its lateness.
> As for Satyajit, he hasn't volunteered for such group at all - in
> fact, as far as I recall, he never posted any message to the ALOC
> list. If both of us had answered by the deadline, I guess (I can only
> guess, given Hans's case) that they would have been included both.
> 
> I am not happy at all at the way this task force has been formed. It
> raises serious doubts on the actual freedom of such task force.
> However, now I want to ask a question to you (and anyone else). Is it
> better a task force that has some icannatlarge.com members, even if
> with other affiliations, or is it better if none of our members takes
> part to the task force? Do you really think that I, Gabriel Pineiro,
> Hans Klein, Peter Shane, Izumi Aizu, are making a mistake in
> participating in this? Or we'd better leave the task of drafting the
> public's voice in the Blueprint process only to the other ALOC
> participants? (This is not a rhetorical question: I've been asking it
> to myself repeatedly.)
> -- 
> vb.               [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a] 
> bertola.eu.org]<------
> ----------------------> http://bertola.eu.org/ 

-- 
Norbert Klein
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