Re: RE: Fw: [atlarge-discuss] ALOC Draft 3.0

[Lawrence Solum <Lawrence.Solum@lls.edu>]

I respectfully disagree.  The so-called main draft should not be viewed 
as being the subject of dissent, in the sense of "assent" 
or "approval."  Esther Dyson can correct me if I am wrong, but I do not 
believe she was implying that the document should be viewed as having 
the approval or assent of anyone other than the drafters.  Silence does 
not imply assent, and hence the term "dissent" is simply inapplicable.  
To say otherwise is simply to misunderstand the grammer of the concept 
of dissent.  The appropriate term would be "disagree," and in context, 
that seems obviously to be Esther's meaning.

My point, to which Judith Oppenheimer did not respond, is that we ought 
to employ the principle of charity in interpreting the contributions of 
others to the list.  That is the route to productive dialog.  Thus, 
referring to a posting as a "semantic game" is simply to be pejorative, 
without adding real substance.



----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Date: Sunday, July 28, 2002 8:53 am
Subject: RE: Fw: [atlarge-discuss] ALOC Draft 3.0

> Let's not play semantics games.
> 
> Particularly in context of this process as well as the thread below,
> "dis·sent - To withhold assent or approval" is right on target.
> 
> J
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lawrence Solum [mailto:Lawrence.Solum@lls.edu]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 7:15 PM
> > To: James Love
> > Cc: Esther Dyson; Sotiris Sotiropoulos; Denise Michel ALSC;
> > atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de; ALOC
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [atlarge-discuss] ALOC Draft 3.0
> >
> >
> > I think Jamie is overinterpreting the word "dissenting," which 
> is, in
> > context, most naturally read as referring to "other" opinions.  The
> > main document doesn't claim to represent the "majority" or 
> "official"> view of the at-large community as a whole.
> >
> > There is no substantive disagreement here, and Esther's
> > original point
> > is on target.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James Love <james.love@cptech.org>
> > Date: Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:20 pm
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [atlarge-discuss] ALOC Draft 3.0
> >
> > > How do you determine if a view is the main recommendation or in
> > > the
> > > "dissenting" opinion?  Do you have authority to just decide what
> > > goes in the
> > > report by yourself, or is there some process that is followed to
> > > determine
> > > what the "at-large" types really think?
> > >
> > > Jamie



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