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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: 850/8=100

Sorry Jeff, either I am denser than usual this morning or I was not clear enough in my request.

Where may I read Jim’s original post in full? What is the URL reference for it that I may follow the yellow-brick-road to it? ;-)

/s/ Joey

Friday, September 06, 2002 * 9:53 AM EDT USA

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"I've just officially outed..."

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**Star*walker** Favorite Moment Quote
From Queer As Folk 2 (UK) DVD Chapter 7
1999
Created & Written by Russell T. Davies
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Scene: Stuart, his sister and her two young boys (ages 8-11), and his parents are gathered around in his parent's home. Stuart's sister already knows that he's gay. His parents do not. Stuart and the older of the two nephews (Thomas, probably 9 or 10, maybe 11) are exchanging meaningful glances.

Stuart's Mother: [glancing at the boys and speaking to their mother...] God love 'em. They're bored to tears. Go outside and play in the garden if you want to.
Stuart's Nephew: It's OK, it's much more fun 'round Uncle Shirts-flap.
Stuart's Sister: It's a hint. They're looking for a wide-screen TV.
Stuart's Nephew: No it's not. It's cause all his mates come around.
Stuart's Mother: That's nice. Is that Vince?
Stuart's Nephew: Yeah, Vince is one of them.
Stuart's Sister: Thomas, your Grammy's right, why don't you go outside and play?!
Stuart's Nephew: Lot's of men [his mother gives him a perturbed look...] All the time.
Stuart's Father: [Assembling a bookcase...] Stuart, come give me a hand with these shelves, will ya?
Stuart: I can't.
Stuart's Father: Of course you can, I just need a hand.
Stuart: We don't do hammers!.. And nails. Or saws. We do joints and screws, but that's different.
Stuart's Mother: Who does?
Stuart: Queers. [Stuart's mother looks at him, at a loss... pauses...]
Stuart's Sister: Why don't I go get some sandwiches because this kitchen really needs organized.
Stuart: [interactive glances with his mother...] Because I'm queer. I'm gay. I'm homosexual. I'm a poof. I'm a poofter. I'm a punce. [now with a steady stare...]
I'm a bum boy, a batty boy, backside artist, bugger. I'm bent.
I am that arse bandit. I lift those shirts.
I'm a faggot-assed, fudge-packin, shit-stabbin uphill gardener.
I dine at the downstairs restaurant. I dance at the other end of the ballroom. I'm Moses and the parting of the red cheeks.
I fuck and I'm fucked. I suck and I'm sucked.
I rim them and wank them, and every single man's had the fuckin time of his life.
And I'm NOT... a pervert!
If there's one twisted bastard in this family it's this little blackmailer here.
So... congratulations Thomas!.... I've just officially outed you.

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mailto:starwalker@gay.com

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At 07:22 AM 9/6/2002 -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:

Joey and all stakeholdersor other interested parties and members,

  Joey, if you were paying attention you will and should have noticed
that I CC'ed Jims original post to this forum.  Hence his original post
was not archived in its original form.  However it is below my response
to Jims original post in it's entirety, see below...

Joey Borda **star*walker** wrote:

>    Jeff:
>
> Be so kind as to point me to Jim’s original post. It is driving me to
> distraction that I can not find it.
>
> /s/ Joey
>
> Friday, September 06, 2002 * 7:14 AM EDT USA
>
> At 03:53 AM 9/6/2002 -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> >Jim and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
> >
> >   Very good analogy or comparison here Jim.  This some what follows
> >some of what Eric and Jefsey have been suggesting is so many words.
> >Well done again here Jim!
> >
> >Jim Fleming wrote:
> >
> > > Your e-mail list debacle could have easily been solved if
> > > you view your organization much like a large dinner party.
> > > Imagine taking your 850 people and dividing them into
> > > tables for 8. That is 100 tables. You can list the people in
> > > a list, but they sit in a circle or a ring. Why people can not
> > > translate from a list to a circle in their heads is amazing. Also,
>
> > > one does not need a hierarchy of tables. Look at a large room
> > > and note the tables are like gears, people sit closer to some
> > > people at other tables. Asking people at an adjacent table to
> > > send them the list of people and names at their table should be
> > > easy. Rebuilding the list of 850 people should take seconds.
> > > Disclosing that there are 850 people on one list is foolish and
> > > shows what amateurs you are. People in Washington will walk
> > > into the DOC and say, "Oh, those kooks, it is a small group..."
> > > Compare that to a "real At Large" where the DOC has to face
> > > an unquantified collection of millions of freedom-loving people.
> > > They are sitting at all the other tables in the room....
> > >
> > > Dinner is served...
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >--
> >Jeffrey A. Williams
> >Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> >CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> >Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> >E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> >Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> >Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
>
> =====
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> =====
>
>

Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



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