Re: [atlarge-discuss] RE: [atlarge-panel] FW: [ga] icannatlarge.com

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joanna and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  I would also strongly suggest that whichever new name is determined
that it be regisered as TM as and "IC" mark as soon as possible.  Of
course this would require that we have the necessary funding to
do so.  Presently as far as I know, we do not have that funding.

  As I and a few other members pointed out some weeks ago when the
debate as to a new name was more intense I suggested that the
term(s) "Atlarge" or "At-Large" should be avoided.  The USPTO
has a mark listed as live for "At-large" as an ITU mark.  See:
http://tess.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=comh3p.7.1


  We as a body, need to also decide what the nature of our relationship
with ICANN is or should be.  The content of any new DN website
name will be dependent upon such a decision.

Joanna Lane wrote:

> Judith,
> Thank you for bringing this to everybody's' attention.
> In view of the seriousness of John Berryhill's remarks, the Watchdogs are
> discussing the possible impact of this unforeseen development on the current
> vote to choose the organization name. The Panel may also wish to discuss the
> impact of John's remarks on current website content.
>
> Regards,
> Joanna
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Judith Oppenheimer [mailto:joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:54 PM
> > To: Panel (E-mail); Discuss (E-mail)
> > Subject: [atlarge-panel] FW: [ga] icannatlarge.com
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> > John Berryhill, an eminent trademark attorney, posted this today on the GA
> > list:
> >
> > > ICANNatlarge.com is not authorized by or affiliated with ICANN, and its
> > use
> > > of ICANN trademarks is misleading, deceptive and dilutive.  You either
> > have a
> > > license or you don't, and it is clear that you don't.
> >
> > see http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg00469.html
> >
> > The thread leading up to this revelation is:
> >
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg00436.html ,
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg00438.html , and
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg00453.html eloquently
> > written by Joanna.
> >
> > What a jolting reminder that "participating within the ICANN process" is
> > not an exercise in self determination or even self organization.
> >
> > Mr. Berryhill writes:
> >
> > > keep up the good work, since if ICANN does not act to enforce its
> > > federally registered trademarks, then it will lose them.
> >
> > I'm not a lawyer, but I suppose it could also hold this organization
> > hostage to the trademark, using it to either keep us in line, or
> > put us out
> > of business.
> >
> > And all this time I was only worried about the bad smell associated with
> > the name!
> >
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