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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] icannatlarge.com



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On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 14:58, J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
> Dear Chair and fellow Members,
> if we cannot use the word ICANN in icannatlarge.org, I doubt we can use the 
> word "atlarge". This is because http://at-large.org exists. This is because 
> http://atlarge.ws exists. This is because france@arge exists. This is 
> because .... All of them can engage into an UDRP against the proposed 
> organization. I know that this is totally absurd, but if we go one way we 
> must completely take that way.
> 
> I therefore suggest we take the name of the "does-not-exist organization".
> 
> Obviously Thomas Roessler could still sue us .....
> jfc
> 
> 
> At 13:08 20/09/02, Joanna Lane wrote:
> 
> >As Chair, I am unwilling to proceed into something that may bring legal
> >recourse against myself or my successor in title. This is a serious legal
> >issue with ramifications that require me to take immediate action to protect
> >myself personally from any liability issues as well as my family.
> >
> >In addition and after very careful consideration, the Watchdogs concur
> >unanimously that the ICANNATLarge option must be invalidated from the
> >ballot, but the vote to choose the organization name can continue with the
> >other four options on the ballot.
> >
> >The Watchdogs have prepared a draft letter to be sent to the full membership
> >later today, which I copy below for your further information.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Joanna
> >______________________________________________________________________
> >
> >Friday, September 21, 2002
> >
> >The Watchdogs have an obligation to make sure the voting process is
> >legitimate, by any definition of the word.
> >
> >It has been brought to our attention that ICANNAtLarge.com does not have a
> >license to use the word "ICANN" in our organization name, which is a
> >registered trademark of ICANN, (see U.S. Registered Trademarks 2,400,781 and
> >2,517,318). To use the word ICANN in our name would be a violation of law.
> >As we do not wish to violate the law, we are forced to invalidate the option
> >of ICANNAtLarge.org as a choice on the ballot and will only be counting
> >votes cast for the other four options. Consequently, you may wish to change
> >your vote.
> >
> >We are extending the voting by a period of 48 hours in order to provide a
> >reasonable opportunity for ballots to be returned.
> >
> >The vote will now end on Tuesday September 24, at 5:00Pm  UTC.
> >Results will be announced no later than Friday, September 27 at
> >http://www.icannatlarge.com.
> >
> >The Watchdogs understand the disappointment some members may feel following
> >this decision, but notwithstanding the legacy of the name ICANNATLarge, the
> >organization must act in accordance with applicable laws in order to be
> >legitimate.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >The Watchdogs.
> >
> >Bruce Young
> >Joanna Lane
> >Walter Schmidt
> >
> >
> >
> >
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