Re: [atlarge-discuss] icannatlarge.com - Correction in this post/response included...

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Bruce and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  Lets get something clear here Bruce.  First I have no idea what
"Document" to which you refer.  Can you point us to it please?
Second, and most importantly, Joanna jumped the gun, there is
NO legal concern regarding ICANNATLARGE.COM with a respect
to any "License" which does not exist legally speaking anyway
in TM law parlance.  It is a granting of a right to use.  So John
Berryhills remarks to which Joanna misread or interpreted improperly
in a near knee-jerk reaction was inappropriate.

  Third, the "Panel" nor it's chair, Joanna, have the mandate to
recommend
anything with regards to this issue anyway...

  Forth, and last, the likelihood of ICANNATLARGE.COMl
being retained after the vote is unlikely.  Hence making this particular
issue moot....

Bruce Young wrote:

> I'm finally back on line and wanted to respond to all the "noise" about this
> subject, and to get some things straight in people's heads.
>
> First, this was not a pleasant issue for any of us, particularly Joanna.
> But we were faced with the publically-stated opinion of a knowledgeable
> lawyer in an official ICANN forum that the ICANNATLARGE.ORG choice could
> leave us open to a potential lawsuit, since we do not hold a license from
> ICANN to use it.  This was by no means solely Joanna's call.  Walt and I
> were both involved in the discussion (myself through my work e-mail address,
> since I was out of town!  I hope they forgive me!), and we felt it was our
> obligation as watchdogs to notify the panel and recommend a course of
> action.
>
> If the shorter fuses on the list would have noticed, the primary target of
> our joint statement was *not* the membership, it was the Panel.  The discuss
> list was CC'd for openness sake, but were not the direct addressee.  So why
> is everyone jumping on Joanna for making "arbitrary" or "top-down"
> decisions?  She, or more to the point *we*, made *no* decisions!  We only
> addressed an issue we became aware of to the panel.  It is now up to the
> panel to get together virtually, decide on a recommended course of action
> and refer it to the membership.
>
> In retrospect we may have been premature to recommend to the panel that they
> modify the vote mid-stream.  A this point I agree that the vote  should
> continue unabated to it's planned conclusion tomorrow, and the vote count
> posted.  After we have a clear winner will be soon enough to discuss the
> legality of whichever name wins.
>
> In the mean time, everyone please be nice to Joanna.  She has been under
> extraordinary pressure these last few months and has responded superbly to
> the challenges the contentious members of this group, ICANN, and the world
> in general have thrown at her.  And if you want to deflect some of your
> hostility to me, have at it!  I was a party to creating the document in
> question.
>
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon USA
> bruce@barelyadequate.info
> http://www.barelyadequate.info
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Regards,

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