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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] MOTION PROPOSAL: was WG-WEB: responses to Jamie
Jefsey and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
> On 03:07 06/10/02, Jeff Williams said:
> >Utter bullshit here Jefsey! >;) Nice try though. You have just told two
> >different stories on this. NSLOOKUP did not support this claim either,
> >nor did whois... I also seriously doubt that the vote had any effect
> >what so ever on this situation. You basically refused to reconfig
> >you name servers. The evidence is now a matter of public record
> >anyway that clearly shows that. I created an audit trail
> >for NIPC as they requested. It is also redundant in that
> >ICANNATLARGE.ORG was transferred, by you I suppose,
> >or your admin. for the DN ICANNATLARGE.ORG, and therefore
> >has hence been locked by Marc Schnieders.
>
> I do not what you try to do here - except may be to confuse Marc out of the
> @large organization?
No you are confusing this potential @large organization I have already
offered the DN I registered without condition to this organization.
You did the same and than pulled it back through a confusing couple of
different stories, now well documented Jefsey. I respect your allot,
but this sort of thing is not excusable after a vote has been taken.
>
> Marc is a grown boy enough and has my full trust.
I am sure he does.
>
> This is so different from you that I hardly believe it.
No it isn't at all Jefsey. As I said I like you, but I will always
call a spade a spade regardless of my personal feelings one way or the
other. I am surprised that you would tell several different stories unless
you were worried about some other ramifications or have ulterior motives.
>
> jfc
>
> > >
> > >
> > > >at the previous vote. In this case:
> > > >
> > > >1 - A legal opinion to the effect that use of "ICANN" in the
> > organization's
> > > >2 - The resignation of our Chair, Joanna Lane, and also Panel member
> > Judith
> > > >3 - The impropriety of conducting a public partisan advocacy of one choice
> > > >4 - Continued disagreement as to whether using "ICANN" in the name is
> > a good
> > > >5 - The technical limbo into which the chosen name has fallen.
> > >
> > > The real issue is that the Membership, the Panel and the concerned
> > xxMasters
> > > do not give a damn about the name they voted for. There are fully
> > protected DNs
> > > by that name (icann-at-large and icann-atlarge), paid until 2003 NO ONE
> > cares
> > > about. Not a single line in tenth of protesting mails about them.
> > >
> > > jfc
> > >
> > > >Quick and democratic ways out of the mess has been suggested:
> > > >
> > > > a) a motion to give all members a straightforward yes/no vote on
> > > > whether to retain the word "ICANN", in which case:
> > > > i) if yes, we need to sort out the legal and technical issues;
> > > > ii) if no, we move on to other priorities.
> > > >
> > > >or
> > > > b) a motion to ask the panel to set aside "ICANNatlarge.org" and
> > > > go with the second-favourite on the ballot, in which case
> > > > i) if yes, we can move on;
> > > > ii) if no, then we're back to discussing what we need to do
> > > > to resolve the issue.
> > > >
> > > >Frankly, I'm rapidly ceasing to care what this group calls itself.
> > > >
> > > >We've got a motion on the table, duly proposed by Richard Henderson and
> > > >seconded by Chris McElroy (aka NameCritic):
> > > > MOVED we ask the membership whether they want the word
> > > > "ICANN" in our name - YES or NO
> > > >
> > > >I move that we put the question to a vote ASAP. Is there a seconder to
> > that?
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Judyth Mermelstein
> > > >
> > > >##########################################################
> > > >Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..."
> > > >Montreal, QC <espresso@e-scape.net>
> > > >##########################################################
> > > >"A word to the wise is sufficient. For others, use more."
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> > > >
> > > >
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> >Jeffrey A. Williams
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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