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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [wg-web] Ending of Temporary Chair period



Hans and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  Yes I was.  However it is good that now it finally does resolve.
I hasn't for over 10 days...  Such a delay is wholly unexceptable
and should not have occurred in the first place.  I am, as I am sure
are the rest of the members, happy to see that now finally the
problem(s) with the resolution of ICANNATLARGE.ORG have
been resolved...

Hans Klein wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Are you implying that http://www.ICANNatlarge.org doesn't resolve?
>
> That is so *yesterday*! ;-)
>
> Hans
>
> At 08:13 PM 11/3/2002 -0800, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >Hans and all WG-Web members,
> >
> >   I fail to yet see that your contention here Hans is present, and
> > certainly not
> >in keeping with the democratic principals that we espouse to.  Jefsey is
> >acting in perhaps a nobel way, or intends to be helpful, but is not.
> >He is not because he acts in some areas thus far to be harmful regarding
> >for instance our DN, ICANNATLARGE.ORG, as you Hans are not doing,
> >or should I say failing to do in getting ICANNATLARGE.ORG up and
> >running.  Yet also now Jefsey is self appointing himself as Chair or this
> >WG, and suggesting directly that other WG Chairs of his choice, not
> >the WG members choice are also chairs.  This is a potential prelude
> >to a takeover or capture.  Such does not engender trust in the members
> >of this fledgling organization, and projects an image that is not the image
> >based on the principals that we espouse to...
> >
> >Hans Klein wrote:
> >
> > > Jamie,
> > >
> > > I think Jefsey deserves some praise and not more endless criticism.  Jefsey
> > > seeks to contribute to the work of ICANNatlarge.org.  He tries to build
> > > things up rather than to tear them down.
> > >
> > > If Vittorio concurs with Jefsey's Email that he (Vittorio) is the new
> > > Coordinator of WG-WEB, then Jefsey will have rendered an important service.
> > >
> > > Vittorio, do you accept the position of Coordinator of WG-WEB?
> > >
> > > Hans
> > >
> > > At 11:21 AM 11/2/2002 -0500, James Love wrote:
> > > >Jefsey, do you have any approval from the panel for any of this, or are we
> > > >in a  phase of everyone just not bothering to get approval for anything,
> > > >following Hans' example?
> > > >
> > > >Jamie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
> > > >>Dear WG-Web Members;
> > > >>I took over a temporary Chairmaship of this WG to get it boostraped.
> > > >>1. the WG-Web has a resolving page at http://icann-at-large.org/wgweb.htm
> > > >>2. the WG-Weg has a mailing list everyone can join
> > > >>3. there has been a Chair search which resulted in Vittorio accepting to
> > > >>lead a process towards a WG-Web charter to be approved by the panel and a
> > > >>Chair election.
> > > >>I transfer the WG-Web Chair to Vittorio.
> > > >>At this stage the http://icannatlarge.com site has been taken over by
> > Hans
> > > >>the webmaster (Bret Fausset) did not maintain relations with this WG
> > > >>the http://icannatlarge.org name does not resolve by purpose or ignorance
> > > >>of Hans who has the password of the panel and his refusal to transfer
> > > >>name management to the WG-DNS
> > > >>the http://icann-at-large.com/org/net and
> > > >>http://icann-atlarge.com/net/org do resolve to a temporary site. These
> > > >>names are owned by the world@wide foundation which will maintain the site
> > > >>and intend to transfer it to the ".ATLARGE World System" once
> > > >>incorporated. They will piont to the icannatlarge.org site once the owner
> > > >>will feel that that site is under the control of the WG.
> > > >>the http://icann.atlarge.ws address the Panel did not want to see managed
> > > >>in concert will follow the same rule.
> > > >>I though advisable under the circumstance not to push harder, neither the
> > > >>Panel nor Brett, my only self assigned mission being to find a Chair to
> > > >>succeed to Jamie. I asked in many ways Hans to address he
> > > >>icannatlarge.org issue. He refused and his last mail shows that he wants
> > > >>to make it a personal issue and use me as a skapegoat. I am not
> > interested.
> > > >>What I propose is the following:
> > > >>1. the http://icannatlarge.com/org are transfered for management to
> > WG-DNS
> > > >>2. I transfer them under a serious registry (I currently use Verisign)
> > > >>3. we make them pointing to the site
> > > >>4. we make sure that the site configuration accepts icannatlarge.com/net
> > > >>as aliases.
> > > >>Otherwise I am not concerned as WG-DNS.
> > > >>Good luck.
> > > >>jfc
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >------
> > > >James Love, Consumer Project on Technology
> > > >http://www.cptech.org, mailto:love@cptech.org
> > > >voice: 1.202.387.8030; mobile 1.202.361.3040
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
> > > >Wg-web mailing list
> > > >Wg-web@icann-at-large.org
> > > >http://icann-at-large.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-web_icann-at-large.org
> > >
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> > > Wg-web@icann-at-large.org
> > > http://icann-at-large.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-web_icann-at-large.org
> >
> >Regards,
> >--
> >Jeffrey A. Williams
> >Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> >CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> >Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> >E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> >Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> >Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> >
> >
> >
>

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



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