[atlarge-discuss] Re: [wg-web] The Number 1 problem

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joanna and all WG-Web Participants,

Joanna Lane wrote:

> As we have seen in
> > past experiences with ICANN's DNSO web site as well as the IDNO's
> > website allowing the webmaster to do whatever they wish without some
> > guidelines and oversight is a huge mistake as information provided on the
> > Website may not reflect the positions of the members of ICANNATLARGE.ORG.
> > Hence we need the WG-Web to devise a set of guidelines and procedures
> > by which some updates and especially additions to the Website are done.
> >
>
> What makes you think that an arbitrary group of self-appointed people on
> WG-Web know what reflects the membership?

  They should as the WG-Web is made up of ICANNATLARGE.ORG
members themselves.  Hence it would be in the WG-Web participants
best interest to know what reflects the membership ideas or feelings.
But of course it is also possible that WG-Web Participants may not know
as well, as your post here might indicate.

The other side of this argument is how would and even few "Group"
of ICANNATLARGE.ORG members know what reflects the membership
or even just the Webmaster know what reflects the membership?  Or even
how would the Panel, that conducts it's discussions mostly in and isolated
Panel ML, know what reflects the membership?

> Or even the elected Panel? Stop
> thinking of the website as a political problem and start thinking about it
> as a creative vision.

  I don't see it as a political problem.  I see the website as a potential
reflection of what the members support, are concerned about, and
reflect what direction which this fledgling organization is heading or
wishes to go...  On the other hand, Joanna, I surely don't see
the website as a "News" site only as you seem to...
See:
http://icann-at-large.org/pipermail/wg-web_icann-at-large.org/2002-November/000036.html

for further refrence...

>
>
> The Number 1 problem is to develop a design concept that incorporates (at
> least) the following elements:-
>
> 1) a magazine format (to list all sections that must be included)
> 2) a distinctive identity (to grab attention with logo, color scheme,
> typeface and page layouts)
> 3) flexibility (to scale, to update, to innovate new sections)

  The ICANNATLARGE.ORG is to become a EZINE in your vision than?
I certainly hope that doesn't happen...  Sure it would be good to have a
section that contains news and News links...

>
>
> Don't try to control the content itself, or even imagine that you can,
> because to succeed means to lose control of content, to allow the site to
> take on a life of its own. At this stage, find the best overall shape by
> listing the full spectrum of features that you would like to include, leave
> out nothing.

  Agreed here.  And that is in effect what I suggested in my earlier post
on the preceding  thread, had you read it completely...
See:http://icann-at-large.org/pipermail/wg-web_icann-at-large.org/2002-November/000039.html

and
http://icann-at-large.org/pipermail/wg-web_icann-at-large.org/2002-November/000040.html

for further reference on the preceding thread on this subject area...

> Next, decide on an identity scheme and delegate the job of
> building each section/ feature to different people, whoever you want, it
> doesn't matter, provided that they stick to the concept by working within
> agreed guidelines you have provided for them in 1, 2,& 3 above.

  1,2,& 3 above in your comments/suggestions is woefully inadequate
and frankly an often like a EZINE rather than a webiste that is
representative of ICANNATLARGE.ORG as an organization...

>
>
> That should do it.

  Not quite.  Much more vision work needed...

>
>
> Joanna
>
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Regards,
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