Re: [atlarge-discuss] Bylaws process/confidence/consensus,

[espresso@e-scape.net]

At 20:33 -0800 2003/02/28, Jeff Williams wrote:
>  A pretty good short list here.  However it was in it's
>entirety, however in different term, several times before...

True ... but the problem may have been that we were presented
with several full sets of bylaws, each organized rather
differently, and the process of comparing clauses between
them was never done ... perhaps because even a natively
English-speaking fast reader with a background in this kind
of organization like me spent literally days trying to
work out the implications of the various versions.

As I said at an earlier stage in this discussion, a
Constitution and bylaws cannot be written in a vacuum
and should not be accepted on the strength of a quick scan
to see if they "look okay" since amending them as soon as
one has passed them is even more troublesome. It can also
be a major pain when inconsistencies or sloppy working
lead to an organization being saddled with processes that
don't work ... which is pretty much where we're at now.

The usual method is to read them carefully, debate how
the wording and structure can be improved, get the bugs out
of one section at a time, and then finally do an overall
formal "reading" for final amendments before putting the
whole document to a vote.

I just thought that maybe "somebody" should stick her neck
out and try to get the discussion going now since we so
obviously do need to do this work and failed to before.
After all, if we had done it, we would not be tied up for
weeks over who is a member and how to hold an election
now.

HTH,

Judyth
(awaiting the usual chopper)



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