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RE: [atlarge-discuss] ICANN Staff's at-large website
I agree that most likely and as far as I can and could see no changes
have been made by Vottorio to the website.
Does this also mean he has not "abused" power ? Nope.
HE has seen fit to rule like an emperor and dropping a struggling
organisation further into oblivion by not supporting efforts by the
remainder of the panel to organize elections, the least one does when
one has failed in any democracy.
He allowed the "spiel" made by Joop c.s. and by sending the maillist to
non-elected members who did not even appear on a possible panellist, he
made sure that further controversy would arise.
It would have suited you better Vittorio to indeed share that list with
the remainder of your panel, which you in your earlier email confirmed
to be still existing though without a mandate.
Your support in organizing elections could be started with sending the
list to Jefsey and Bruce, and at least have them organize election, if
they abuse that list in any form it will haunt them and not you like it
does now.
The idea that either Jan or Judyth would be able to organize an election
is surely not one you had before the discussion started, otherwise you
would have said so, which you do now for the first time, unless it was
your intention to support Joop in organizing it. Something of course
many of the members have doubts about the outcome and legality of the
outcome.
As an ordinary member, I urge you once again to send the list to both
collegue panellist that remain, who in turn without a shadow of a doubt
will not abuse that list, and solely organize elections within a time
frame that is reasonable.
I am sure they would adhere to doing nothing else then such.
We do not need new rules for an election, we have rules to elect an
interim panel, let's do that, so they can formalize the organization, if
so wanted by and after consultation of the members, and they can under
the same conditions organize an election for a full panel with discussed
and approved mandates where needed.
This could all be done in under 10 days if you hand handed the list over
earlier, and can still be done in that time.
I would love to hear a real reason for abandoning the remainder of the
panel by sending the list, of which the panel and not you is a
custodion, to non panel-members, what you have given untill now is just
plain nonsense andnot backed up by anything.
I do sincerely hope that reason within you will prevail and Jefsey and
Bruce can organize this electioon this week, which means there is s
immer of hope left, any other way is a dead warrant on this
organization, no matter how well willing some members are.
Kind regards
Abel Wisman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vittorio Bertola [mailto:vb@bertola.eu.org]
> Sent: 17 March 2003 10:38
> To: espresso@e-scape.net
> Cc: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] ICANN Staff's at-large website
>
>
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:27:03 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >>Equally without fanfare, the www.icannatlarge.org front
> page has been
> >>turned into something that now speaks about the ALAC without any
> >>criticism and where anything vaguely embarrassing to ICANN has been
> >>removed.
> >>
> >>So much for the workings of our last website supervisory
> Panel and its
> >>appointed webmaster. (easy when the Chair of the Panel
> first appoints
> >>and then supervises
> >>>himself)
> >
> >Though I haven't time to keep checking the Web site
> >for unauthorized changes (I'm too darned busy for it),
>
> There have been no unauthorized changes. In fact, there have
> been no changes to our website since December 21st (last news
> item is still about our Amsterdam meeting...). So:
>
> >"RESOLVED THAT
> >
> > a) Vittorio Bertola, given that he is no longer Chair
> > of ICANNATLARGE.ORG's Panel and has misused his powers
> > of administrative access to its Web site to further his
> > personal interests against those of ICANNATLARGE.ORG,
>
> ...could you please remove this statement? I have not misused
> any power nor I have furthered my personal interests. (Or
> Joop may clarify which changes I am supposed to have done in
> the last weeks.) Thanks,
> --
> vb. [Vittorio Bertola - vb [at] bertola.eu.org]<---
> -------------------> http://bertola.eu.org/ <-----------------------
>
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