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Re: [atlarge-discuss] On the ALAC's Request for Comments



Yep, and mine - outstanding letter

best wishes,

Richard H

----- Original Message -----
From: Micheal Sherrill <micheal@beethoven.com>
To: <DannyYounger@cs.com>; Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] On the ALAC's Request for Comments


> Please add mine, as well.
>
> Regards,
>
> Micheal Sherrill
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
> Date:  Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:53:56 -0700
>
> You can add my name to the bottom of this, Danny.
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
> DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
>
> > This moronic plan surely must have been conceived by the feeble-minded
idiots
> > and stooges that participated as members of the At-Large Assistance
Group --
> > it has all the hallmarks of a document hand-written by ICANN staff and
> > rubber-stamped by the ICANN Board's hand-picked puppets (who apparently
are
> > too ignorant or too naive to understand that they are only being used as
a
> > conveniently pliable tool to promote the fiction that ICANN is in
compliance
> > with task number nine under the Memorandum of Understanding with the
U.S.
> > Department of Commerce).
> >
> > Having witnessed the complete and total elimination of all public
> > representation on the ICANN Board these fools on the At-Large Advisory
> > Committee now expect the Internet community to rally around a top-down
effort
> > designed to asininely further complicate communication between
individual
> > users and members of the ICANN Board.
> >
> > In the past, any individual user could write a letter to ICANN and feel
> > confident that they would be ignored (as it has become rather apparent
that
> > ICANN only bothers to pay attention to those special-interest groups it
deems
> > to be "stakeholders" in its Cartel).  Now one has to do all of the
following
> > in order to achieve the same outcome:
> >
> > 1.  First one must find a noncommercial entity to join.
> > 2.  Next, one needs to convince the members of this non-profit group
that
> > they must post on their website information that pertains to ICANN
> > activities/issues, and further convince them to offer Internet-based
> > discussion mechanisms so that such activities/issues may be evaluated.
> > 3.  Then it next becomes necessary to convince this noncommercial group
that
> > they must provide information on the group's general funding sources to
the
> > ALAC (so that this Committee of pseudo-accountants/analysts can
ostensibly
> > come to a determination as to whether the non-profit has commitments or
> > obligations that would conflict with its ability to involve and
represent
> > individual constituents' interests).
> > 4.  At this point, one must now confirm that somewhere on the non-profit
> > group's website is an articulation of its non-commercial goals and
structure,
> > a description of constituent group(s), its working mechanisms,
leadership,
> > and contact(s) -- unlike the ALAC which has no posted working
mechanisms, an
> > incomplete structure, no contact data on its discussion list (the e-mail
> > addresses of all the "representatives" are replaced with XXXXX), no
working
> > public forum and no publicly archived public comments.
> > 5.  Then, the non-profit must be convinced to submit in electronic form
a
> > completed application and to provide the ALAC any further requested
> > documentation (which may include references, documents to verify general
> > funding sources, documents on the organization's leadership and
operations,
> > and documents that demonstrate the identity of all their individual
> > constituents -- has anyone on this Committee ever heard of the concept
of
> > privacy?).  The non-profit must also be convinced that it must
necessarily
> > subject itself to the prospect of further possible interviews regarding
the
> > organization's contact(s) and must potentially provide other as yet
> > unspecified information about the organization.
> > 6.  If the ALAC then decides to designate this organization as an
eligible
> > "structure", the user that wishes to communicate with the ICANN Board
must
> > next find at least three other such structures (that must be located in
at
> > least two countries) and must persuade these structures to form a
regional
> > organization.
> > 7.  In order to form this regional body, the user must then convince
these
> > other organizations to spend months and months developing a set of
bylaws
> > that all organizations can agree upon, and then the user must further
> > convince each non-profit organization to share in the financial burden
of
> > establishing this new umbrella organization -- that means dedicating
> > financial resources for the purpose of incorporation, and setting aside
funds
> > to provide for an organizational website, Secretariat services, and
such.
> > 8.  The user must also convince each such non-profit organization that
it's
> > limited funds should be applied to this glorious experiment instead of
> > remitting such limited funds as the membership fee for direct
participation
> > in ICANN's Non-Commercial constituency (which at least gets to
participate in
> > the election of an ICANN director).
> > 9.  If the regional organization is finally created, then the user must
await
> > the formulation of a formal Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN which
> > consecrates this effort...  (for some reason, this Committee of the
> > Mentally-Challenged seems to think that the At-Large is so gullible that
it
> > will willingly enter into a contract with ICANN in the full knowledge
that
> > ICANN has broken all of its prior promises, ignored the consensus
conclusions
> > of its own Blue Ribbon Panel (the ALSC) and has gleefully wiped out all
user
> > representation on its Board).
> > 10.  Finally, if this last stage is achieved, the user can then send his
> > comments to the two members of the ALAC that his regional organization
has
> > elected.  Those two members will then transmit his message to the full
> > committee that will next proceed to filter, mangle, distort, and
re-write his
> > comments (after sincerely thanking him for his input).  The ALAC will
then
> > transmit a non-binding "recommendation" to the Board that in turn will
thank
> > the committee for its efforts before proceeding to ignore the comments
> > received.
> >
> > As a user, I don't need this degree of structural bullshit just to
> > communicate my sentiments directly to ICANN.  The problem is not the
lack of
> > a structured vehicle to serve as a communications conduit... the problem
has
> > always been that the Board has been comprised of members that can't be
> > bothered to listen to the voice of the public that they purportedly
serve.
> >
> > This ALAC plan sucks.  Unfortunately, the spineless worms on the
Committee
> > will never advocate for substantive change.  Instead, they will meekly
accept
> > the bylaws as written and will continue to pretend to "represent" the
> > At-Large.  All hail the Company Union.
> >
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