RE: [atlarge-discuss] 21 Questions to candidates

["A/S Mauro D. Ríos" <mdrios@adinet.com.uy>]

Jeff,

Thank you to take the nuisance of contributing to my ideas.
I agree with you majority.

In some cases I believe that my not well English one was not understood
completely.

In my text, I have responded to all the question except some very very few.
At few hours of the beginning of the voting, and how most of those nominated
has not responded the questions, I wanted to respond in a pleasant way for
the reading and not a shot after other, as if it was an inquisition of
questions and answers.

I also consider that many of the answers in fact should be looked for once
the Panel begins to work, we can outline our ideas and vision, but not to
give the recipe for all the wrongs in a list or forum. This would be very
egocentric. The solutions are not individual, they will be for consent and
arisen of the Panel jointly to all the members.

A point that I find interesting is the institutional political topic of
Internet and the technological one. I agree with you in that the
institutional politics has never solved the technical problems, it is
certain if we look at the problems specifically from a technological point
of view. We cannot say the same of the support with funds and resources. It
is also certain that although the technical solution exists, if the decision
taken to implement it doesn't exist, you doesn't arrive anywhere.

And in none of these aspects @Large it is not paralyzed. @Large should trace
routes, leaning on in the immense mass of members and its immense diversity
of accumulated knowledge, can and it should mark the difference with other
organizations and to dare to publish opinions, directive and tendencies to
continue. @Large doesn't integrate it solely technical, there is a
plantation of knowledge that cannot be wasted and many multifaceted people
that will be fundamental, exist they are those that gather technical,
commercial, organizational knowledge, etc.

@Large doesn't have to coercive power (to penalize), for that reason comely
to its power like a reference organization. There are not doubts that their
constitution like grateful legal organization as civil organization or
another way, will contribute to all the purposes. The elaboration of the
statutes and the writing of the game rules for members and directive, they
will be part of the roots that needing are hopelessly.

@Large neither should become a theoretical organization, it should act with
the feet in the earth, to this I pointed with several parts of my notes. You
wonder how, a possible answer is in my I outline. From the division of
powers, the creation of commissions and specific work groups,... and other
many things that I describe, they will achieve that @Large is an executive
and not bureaucratic organization.

To conclude, I share that said by Ivonne, the questions were important but
captious.
;-)

a cordial greeting,
Mauro.-

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
Enviado el: Jueves, 22 de Mayo de 2003 03:06 a.m.
Para: A/S Mauro D. Ríos
CC: @Large List; J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
Asunto: Re: [atlarge-discuss] 21 Questions to candidates


Mauro, or whomever you are, and all fellow members,

A/S Mauro D. Ríos wrote:

> (excuse my English)
> (disculpen que en esta oportunidad no escribo también en español)
>
> Dear all,
>
> Since the list of questions in extensive, is short time, and my
> pleasure to write, I have preferred to outline topics that I want all
> they respond or at least most of the questions. Some answers had
> already mentioned them to the list.

  I am sure that you would prefer to post your own ideas.  However
answering direct questions posed is far more important for any
potential candidate of any election to any position that is in any
way, large or small, representative of the membership of a
stakeholder/user type organization as ICANNATLARGE.ORG
is, or is supposed to be.

>
>
> :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:
>
> @Large is an organization that represents people in a global world,
> determining a common point of view democratically.

  At present though hopefully not for too much longer, ICANNATLARGE.ORG
actually represents no one as it has yet to become a actual legal
organization.
This is a task that the previous "Panel" was task with doing or achieving
and failed to do so, and why a VALID and LEGITIMATE election
for new Panel members needs to be conducted and was demanded
by the members of ICANNATLARGE.ORG.

> It should be
> different to the rest of the organizations, sharing some aspects but
> establishing unique rules. It is indispensable that @Large becomes a
> reference point for the whole public or private organizations,
> institutions and governments.

  This is not likely to be possible as no single organization can
make such a claim regardless of how many members it may have
or eventually acquire/gain over time.  In the US alone there
are at least 72m stakeholders/users.

>
>
> Will it analyze and to suggest the routes for where Internet will walk
> in the future, in institutional political aspects as technological.

Technology can and has many times solved political or perceived
political issues and problems.  However Politics can never, and never
has solved a technical problem despite noises to the contrary.

>
>
> Internet can be a powerful realization environment, but we should act
> with the feet in the earth.

  This statement seems to be far behind the curve.  The internet is
and has been for a number of years a "powerful realization environment".

> The ideal thing is enemy of the good
> thing. Any decision that takes the organization, will keep in mind,
> among many things, the connection rate, the critical mass of members
> and of navigators, the tendencies and the objectives of other
> international organizations.

How and why?

>
>
> The goals will be of two types: (1) long term, a horizon that draws
> the road, but (2) objectives to short and medium term, realizable
> objectives that maintain the motivation and produce concrete results.

Obviously so, yes.

>
> I want mainly an organization that acts in an executive way, making,
> not speculating, discussing or confronting parts eternally. I want a
> representative organization of the interests of the Internet
> community, assisting the political questions of the net, regulations,
> names of domains, etc.

  Indeed true.  However such decisions and policies are made
by people or by the members of said organization.  Hence it
is necessary that the individuals are trustworthy, honest, and forthright.

We obviously seem to be lacking in these areas and must separate
the seed from the chaff as it were.

>
>
> :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:
>
> The same nature of Internet makes each individual to be an independent
> cell, but at the same time integrated to a global community, this
> community is organized and reacts in front of the changes of the
> environment.

Right now the global community is fractured in many directions and
from many points of origin.

>
>
> This individual, the final user, the navigator, have played a
> fundamental function in Internet, many times in a silent way and
> others with a protagonistic emphasis. The user is object and subject
> of all that is developed in the net. From the commercial aspects until
> the trivial topics have in their center to the person.

  Indeed true here.

>
>
> This community is the objective of @Large, its seriousness, a free one
> to work and administrative transparency, they will make that @Large is
> a relating one reliable for the users of Internet.
>
> :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:
>
> @Large should maintain its character of global. To create a structure
> confederal for regions, he/she can make that we are escaped from the
> hands the administration and coordination, besides causing an internal
> discussion for the independence of the centers and regional
> associations that are part of @Large.
>
> A federal organization, with regional structures but integrated @Large
> and under the command of the same statutes, it will facilitate that
> @Large is an executive organization that takes concrete actions ahead
> and don't be submerged in bureaucracies.

  Indeed also true and very much how INEGroup is structured and
also operates it's business.

>
>
> This federal structure should be corresponded with an internal
> flowchart that reflects divisions of powers and thematic divisions and
> topics. One of those topics is the regions and the federal community.
> If work is not delegated in commissions, work groups and individual
> members, @Large is not viable. The centralization of powers in few
> hands, is not only antidemocrat, neither it is possible to sustain
> that organization for a lot of time.

  Or for any time at all.

>
>
> Another centralization type is that of all @Large, that is to say: 1
> administrative organization, 1 board of directors, 1 Panel = 1 big
> problem. This centralization type, attentive against the same values
> of @Large and of the community of Internet.
>
> :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:
>
> The problem of the languages in the Internet and especially in the DNS
> it is complicated, their nature is political, philosophical, cultural
> and technique. Who have not found solution to this problem, they are
> from artists, prominences of the culture, experts in ICT, political
> and common users.
>
> The diversity makes to the World an unique and varied place,
> difficultly be able to solve such a wide topic in one night. As they
> have mentioned other, a country only includes a language, many races
> and cultures, many variants of the language local and many languages
> of minority groups. It is a primordial task of the next Panel creating
> the necessary spaces to work (work groups, commissions, etc).
>
> The aspects technician involved in this topic is for my minor compared
> with the rest of present problems in the question. The Global World is
> the great point to analyze, the individuality and independence of all
> who we live here, either as individuals, like part of an organization,
> of a city or of a country.
>
> It is my desire that Internet is multi language, but it is very
> difficult for a very extensive list of technical and cultural
> inconveniences. But I bet to that in a future not very distant, the
> computer tools allow us to translate in a more efficient way the
> conversations and messages in different languages, even being able to
> translate conversations spoken in real time.
>
> But this will be now the future, today, I would conform to with which
> each person's identity was respected, beginning to respect its
> language, looking for the spaces and the good will to give the
> possibility to all the members of @Large to be able to be expressed in
> its language. In this sense I admire to Japaneses, in the
> negotiations, the businessmen, they can use 3 types of Japanese
> language, according to their social strata. When the negotiations
> commit key points, they always prefer to speak in Japanese, to
> maintain their cultural levels and their dignity in front of their
> tally.
>
> A global language, English or other, it is an excellent communication
> tool and it has facilitated the explosive growth of the trade, of the
> business and Internet. But doesn't make a lot to maintain the identity
> of the towns. Today, now, in it USA, for example, the Hispanics are
> the biggest minority, above the black and Asian groups.
>
> A very good friend and colleague has a rule: If it is him who travels
> or hee is integrated to a meeting or event, he speaks English, but if
> they are the other ones who they visit him, he speaks Spanish.
>
> :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:
>
> The next Panel will center its activity in establishing the flowchart
> of the organization, the prospective division of powers. It should
> establish goals to long and medium term.
>
> The long term goals mark the road and they visualize a horizon. But
> the goals to medium term motivate, they are possible to reach them
> quickly, creating interaction in the institution. They will provide
> @Large an executive profile.
>
> I am convinced that many times the process to reach a goal it is so
> important that the goal. The process and the traveled road generates
> synergy, it begins other processes, it unifies and it commits people
> that participate. Opens doors and it motivates a process of continuous
> improvement in the management of the organization and their own
> members.
>
> The calendar of the next Panel will contain: flowchart, statutes
> (bylaws), regional structure, official opinion of the DNS, languages
> and another pending topics in ICANN. It should look for the spaces for
> agreements and conversations with other organizations, to deepen the
> work in collaboration, cooperative and productive.
>
> The Panel should learn how to delegate tasks, should learn how to give
> the members the necessary participation.
>
> Lastly it is important that you begins to establish the approaches and
> the strategy to maintain the current members and to achieve an
> exponential growth. The Marketing is a fundamental part of our
> organization, this marketing it should be of two types: a) the
> advertising one, b) the one gotten by the own performance of the
> organization. This is the true marketing that we should look for, of
> anything it will serve the publicity if it is to promote an empty
> container.
>
> :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:
>
> The financing of @Large presents a challenge, but it should not be
> thought that there will be magic recipes. The contribution of
> memberships is, without doubts, a source of funds. Sponsors and
> donations will be another source of money. All the possibilities
> should be analyzed, of which don't believe that reinvented formulas
> appear, but an efficient and transparent administrative method should
> be applied.
>
> Other sources of funds can be, perhaps (!?): events, consultancy
> services and advice, investigation on-demand, independent management
> of projects, other. Many of these possibilities open doors but they
> leave other queries, for example: Should @Large compete in the market
> of services?. Should @Large be only a theoretical organization of the
> Internet?
>
> We cannot look for financing without considering aspects like, for
> example: A very important donation of an institution or person,... can
> it commit the transparency of the organization?, will it be observed
> with doubts and suspicions?. Can the commercial companies donate us
> money?. Will the sponsors be done as a marriage between marks and
> names with @Large?. Should all the members pay?, is @Large an open
> organization or for subscription?. How much money should the members
> pay?
>
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>
> The participation of the members should be analyzed. The list like the
> forums present a level of disorder that should be organized
> (managenment).
>
> Several technological options exist to administer these resources
> better. It is important to give him an organization that allows a
> quick pursuit of discussions and opinions, to define or to syntonize a
> system of agile voting inside the same forums (to improve the existent
> one for example).  A mechanism of quick vote in a private forum
> (password), it will speed up the discussions and it will be a
> fundamental tool to make decisions.
>
> The resources should be centralized, it is incoherent to have
> resources distributed in three websites or more. This is confused and
> it discourages the members that less they participate.
>
> We should communicate clearly which the official website of @Large is
> and which the services linked him. It is necessary to standardize the
> information in all and each one of the places where he/she appears and
> we should maintain updated this information.
>
> The website should be simplified. Not necessarily removing content,
> but organizing the contents better and to maintain all the access
> options in one or several menus. Links in an arbitrary way should not
> appear in any part of the place and that these links is not included
> in the menu.
>
> The easiness of use of the website, also contributes to the
> participation of the members.
>
> These regulations should also be suggested to be applied in websites
> that belong to some members. These particular websites is making use
> of the name of the organization and they should respect the
> communication rules and preferences that @Large settles down.
>
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>
> Which is the scenario of game of @Large?. does Internet grow to an
> important rhythm and is a fact that will continue this way. But the
> question relapses in if the promotion of Internet is framed in the
> reality or in a desire, not only outside of context, also a bad
> sizing.
>
> Some years ago the wide band exploded in the table of the agencies of
> publicity, today the reality tells us that more than 80% of the
> connected population to Internet, it consents to same or smaller
> speeds at 56kbps (GVU / NRI). likewise the banners was a landmark
> until it was revealed that only in 1% click is made.
>
> The penetration of Internet in the world only supposes the
> population's 15.8% (IDATE), this has several readings. If like they
> proclaim the urbanist of the net, we leave aside the population's big
> masses in distant areas of the urbanization, the percentage grows in a
> very significant way, in turn we would be tramping the equity.
>
> If on the contrary we maintain an altruistic objective regarding the
> access of the information, in such a way that we can make reality an
> economy of the knowledge in the countries, the penetration of Internet
> is even distant.
>
> United States is for a lot the country that maintains the leadership
> with a penetration of the 67%(IDATE) of its population, while in Latin
> America the 9.1%(IDATE) of penetration it is sustained basically by
> Brazil; among the small countries, Uruguay is the Latin American
> country with more access to the net with a 20%(Grupo Radar), and a
> rate of growth of almost 80% in less than 3 years.
>
> In another aspect, Internet continues giving headaches as for a
> legislation. Most of the specialists coincide that an order type
> should settle down in the net, several countries have today extensive
> legislation libraries, but regrettably if it is not corresponded by
> the rest of countries, alone they are applicable inside opposite and
> the frontiers are not those that will be able to regulate Internet. We
> should not confuse order and regulation with restriction, as well as
> we should not confuse freedom of speech with anarchy of the
> information.
>
> In commercial aspects, I remember that Warren Buffet tried to convince
> us of calmly taking the things in the 2000 when its company lost value
> and he refused to buy actions of the .com, today all lose money and
> Buffet achieves a performance of more than 100% in its business.
>
> Internet is not omnipresent and much less omnipotent, all strategy
> that the world delineates regarding a future toward the society of the
> information and an economy of the knowledge (you excuse for the
> cliché), will think a lot beyond Internet. Without caring the cultural
> or economic aspect that we think about, Internet it is a motor and it
> officiates in any event of catalyst in this global world.
>
> A player of the new economy knows today that the markets are conquered
> with a mixed strategy and a business is secured with sale channels as
> much brick as click. @Large cannot be unaware to this reality and all
> its strategy should be centered in a real world.
>
> :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:
>
> Best regards,
> Mauro.-
>
> ----- Mensaje original -----
> De: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
> Para: atlarge discuss list
> Enviado: lunes, 19 de mayo de 2003 20:37
> Asunto: [atlarge-discuss] 21 Questions to candidates
>
> I would be interested in a few quickies:
>
> 1. how do you define an @large?
> 2. what is your understanding of the @large community?
> 3. is your understanding of our needed structure: centralized,
> federal,
> confederal?
> 4. do you want to see people using the internet in their own language
> or in
> English or extended English to some local wording?
> 5. do you have a definition for domain name?
> 6. what is the main target you want to achieve in being elected at the
> Panel?
> 7. how many languages do you read?
> 8. have you met the people of your NIC before?
> 9. did you already meet with the press on an Internet issue?
> 10. how many minutes a day do yo expect to be able to dedicate to the
> Panel
> 11. do you intend to run for Chair? Do you have some ideas about the
> way
> the Panel should organize?
> 12. from this year experience how long do you think you will stay in
> the
> Panel?
> 13. one of the few things the Panel did this year was to indentify
> that WGs
> should not be headed by Panel Members but that they should count a
> Panel
> member to liaise with the Panel. This was obviously absolutely not
> enforced. What is your opinion?
> 14. how do you think the membership list should be pratically managed?
> (today no one knows how it works and how to update data)?
> 15. are you a programmer of some sort?
> 16. do you have a Panel Chair candidate?
> 17. what is the most urgent: to get a Panel charter, bylaws,
> incorporating,
> deciding a position for the next ICANN meeting, getting a webmaster,
> establishing polling rules? or what?
> 18. When you motion something are you ready to understake its
> management
> right away or do you prefer concepts design?
> 19. how will the panel get funded?
> 20. Is the ICANN of real interest to us? to you? to your country?
> 21. We are dwindling to 950 with the email address getting obsolete.
> How
> will you make us 10.000?
>
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard
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