RE: [atlarge-discuss] MEMEBRS AS WATCHDOGS - RECOUNT

["Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>]

Jefsey explained the possiblemiscounts already in his email earlier, I
suggest you read that and I hope to receive some email from watchdogs
and or members to either confirm or dispute my count.

I do not see this as a grave miscarriage of justice but honest and
simple mistakes made when relying on software, sometimes one has to
check, I was able to do so because the files are available.

For thos who want to check the files themselves they are in raw and zip
format available at ftp.icannatlarge.org user atlarge, passwd atlarge

Kind regards

Abel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joanna Lane [mailto:jo-uk@rcn.com] 
> Sent: 02 June 2003 01:33
> To: abel@able-towers.com; 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] MEMEBRS AS WATCHDOGS - RECOUNT
> 
> 
> Abel,
> I sure hope you're wrong because that's a staggering 99% 
> error rate by the Polling Committee, who will have 
> misreported 17 out of a possible 18 results. No doubt you 
> will now appreciate why some of us were questioning their 
> methodology. Joanna
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abel Wisman [mailto:abel@able-towers.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:26 PM
> > To: 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] MEMEBRS AS WATCHDOGS - RECOUNT
> >
> >
> > After reading this I did my own "count" by simply going through the 
> > file manually (ok I used "find")  to do a visual count of the votes 
> > this lead to conclude that there are some discrepencies. These 
> > discrepencies are easily explained reading the the code in 
> "watch.c" 
> > and as Jefsey explained in his email.
> >
> > On this "visual" count, which is not as easy as counting to 
> 10 I come 
> > to the following count (in brackets the original count):
> >
> > 1. Joop Teenstra		97 (100)
> > 2. David Goldstein	70 ( 71)
> > 3. Sebastian Klein	68 ( 68)
> > 4. Daniel Chirita		65 ( 67)
> > 5. Daniel Tobias		60 ( 63)
> > 5. Abel Wisman		60 ( 61)
> > 7. Ivonne Muņoz Torres	59 ( 59)
> > 7. Andre Rebentisch	59 ( 61)
> > 9. Hugh Blair		58 ( 59)
> > 10 Gilbert Lumantao	57 ( 59)
> > 11 Mauro Demian Rios	47 ( 48)
> > 11 Sotiris Sotiropoulos	47 ( 51)
> >
> >
> > 13 Jonathan Robin		45 ( 47)
> > 14 Dominic Pinto		44 ( 46)
> > 14 Catherine Hughes	44 ( 46)
> > 14 James Graham		44 ( 46)
> > 17 Thierry Amoussougbo	43 ( 44)
> > 18 Curtis M Kularski	41 ( 44)
> >
> > Please do your own visual or coded count, I can easily have made 
> > errors, though I believe I was somehow thorough.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
> > Abel
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jefsey Morfin [mailto:jefsey@online.fr]
> > > Sent: 01 June 2003 19:59
> > > To: Atlarge Discuss List
> > > Subject: [atlarge-discuss] MEMEBRS AS WATCHDOGS - RECOUNT
> > > - there is a recount needed for Mauro and Sotiris. My
> > >    visual recount confirms that Sotiris is elected. But
> > >    a watchdog's perl program says no.
> > >
> > > Walter claimed there was no transparency in Watchdogs. blahblah. 
> > > There is transparency as you never known it before. And I 
> think we 
> > > still can improve this - even on a large scale. But this 
> means that 
> > > all of you are or can be involved and are co-responsible 
> watchdogs; 
> > > This is what you wanted, folks. Now you have it let see 
> what you do 
> > > with it. No possible supposed tricks.
> > >
> > > If it works we can have it now made professionnal. Both
> > > in using "mail and vote" and "click and vote".
> > > jfc
> > >
> > > PS. I started as committed http://apolite.net
> > >         Help wanted for the Franglish.
> > >         mailing list for those wanting to act
> > >         "let-have@apolite.net"
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