Re: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee

["Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>]

Dassa and Micheal:

I wonder how soon you will say the same things about me.

After all, I do not agree with the your belief that a verification panel
should be making subjective decisions about whether they like a person
enough to try to verify him or her. That seems to make me your enemy.

Why is it that when people may be verified by sending a secret code by
Restricted Mail to their mailing address, the verifiers choose not to send
such mail to someone they don't like?  That is the only question here...
nothing else. I cannot imagine why people would go to such lengths to try to
justify such discriminatory behavior.  Even Sotiris has had the decency to
get past that hurdle and has promised to send a letter.

Listing historical anecdotes and repeatedly explaining why you don't like a
person does not excuse this behavior.  If you are so sure that Jeff Williams
cannot pass the verification test that you have devised, then why not send
him the letter?  Could it be that you are secretly not so sure at all?
Could it be that you are frightened that he will receive the letter and
return the code?  Could it be that you are so afraid that Jeff Williams
might actually be real enough for you to have to verify him, and then deal
with his behavior in a way that is different from your current attempts at
ostracism by discrimination?

Just send a letter and keep your fingers crossed.  Who knows, since you are
so sure of your facts, you are bound to get the letter returned as
undeliverable. Then you can breath a sigh of relief and start to be honest
again.

Ron Sherwood



----- Original Message -----
From: "Micheal Sherrill" <micheal@beethoven.com>
To: "At Large Discuss" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:18 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee


> Thank you, Dassa.  Succinctly put.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Micheal Sherrill
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Dassa" <dassa@dhs.org>
> Reply-To: <dassa@dhs.org>
> Date:  Tue, 10 Jun 2003 07:46:01 +1000
>
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Ron Sherwood [mailto:sherwood@islands.vi]
> |> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:32 PM
> |> To: Joanna Lane; micheal@beethoven.com; atlarge discuss list
> |> Subject: Re: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee
> |>
> |>
> |> Good morning, Joanna:
> |>
> |> You wrote:
> |> > By this statement, you just lost any credibility you may have had.
> |> > Have you not seen Ross Rader's photos of Jeff Williams address in
> |> > Texas? It's a field.
> |>
> |> I am sorry that my questioning of an unproven allegation by
> |> a clearly biased individual, permits you to determine that I
> |> have lost all credibility.
>
> Whilst it is  a given there exists a person who calls themselves Jeff
> Williams, it has been shown a number of times over the years the
> name/address and claims made by this person are false.  The person has
> been investigated a number of times and every time the personal and
> business information he provided turned out to be fabricated.  This has
> been documented a number of times on websites and mailing lists by
> prominent people such as Ross in the DNS arena.
>
> Those of us who have been around DNS interests for a while (a haunt for
> Jeff Williams) are very familiar with the facts.  Even a cursory
> investigation by yourself should have turned up the fact the identity of
> Jeff Williams has been questioned for years and he has never been able
> to prove either his identity or the claims he makes.  It is also a well
> known fact in DNS circles that some well known people have tried to
> substantiate his claims and personal information but could only come up
> with negatives.  The only way to settle the matter would involve more
> expense than the issue is worth.  The majority of people I have come
> across just accept Jeff Williams as he is, an unknown person who tells
> unsubstantiated stories, who sometimes has some interesting things to
> say but who for the majority of the time should and is ignored.
>
> I'm afraid any organisation that validates Jeff Williams as a member
> would lose all credibility.
>
> Darryl (Dassa) Lynch
>
>
>
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>
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> a Real Person.  The owner is also a Notary of the Web of Trust for
> www.thawte.com which is a third party verifier of high level
> certification.  Please go to their Web of Trust page at
> https://www.thawte.com/html/SUPPORT/wot/general.html for information.
>
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