Re: [atlarge-discuss] list confrontation(s)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Bruce and all fellow members,

bruce@barelyadequate.info wrote:

> Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
> |  Mailing List Rules
>
> OK.  God knows we need them!  My comments:
>
> |  3. Remain civil at all times, even when you feel provoked. Persistent
> |  incivility will be rewarded with removal from the Forum.
>
> Some thought will need to go into how such a removal process would work.
> "Incivility" needs to be specifically defined.

  Agreed with your suggestion here Bruce.  One persons "Incivility"
is yet another persons perfectly reasonable discourse.  In addition
attempting to adjust such a definition of "Incivility" across culture
differences is really not feasible.

  IMHO, such a "Rule" is not really possible to implement and is
a form of Censorship in one of it's worst forms.

>
>
> |  Doing so willfully may lead to you being immediately and
> |  permanently banned or you posting rights being restricted.
>
> Permanently?  Have to be a pretrty serious violation to invoke that, I would
> think!

  Again such a "Rule" is not legally wise and leads to many more
serious problems some of which some here have already
seen and experienced.  Hence this sort of "Rule" is ill advised
in any form, as well is another form of Censorship.

>
>
> |  Civility includes not to repost private correspondence, unless such
> |  correspondence was abusive or threatening and its reposting is in the
> |  public interest.
>
> OK, I guess, although I've always believed private is private.

  In a organization amongst said organizations members, no
communication regarding that organization is private
in actuality.

>
>
> |  4. Provocations by way of false statements.
>
> I like it!  But I'd better start keeping better archives!

  This a good potential "Rule" but needs flushing out quite
a bit.  Such as how, and whom decides what is a false
statement?

> |  6. At times of heavy list traffic, the moderator may impose
> |  daily posting limits for all.
>
> Well . . . OK.  But let's set a maximum duration for this.  Given my
> participation style (uploading in spurts!) I need to be able to catch up!
>
> Good Job, Joop!
>
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon USA
> bruce@barelyadequate.info
> http://www.barelyadequate.info
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Regards,

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