Re: [atlarge-discuss] Honesty and integrity to:Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric and all fellow members,

  Absolute Honesty is relative reference.  Perhaps any
honesty and integrity for a number of members in this
group would be a good start.

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Wonderful sentiment and great point - but drop the word absolute.
> Impossible lest thee be God.
> Eric
>
> > Eric and all fellow members,
> >
> >   Agreed here Eric.  But first you must have honesty and
> > integrity if growing the membership is to be successful
> > in all respects and for the mid to long term haul.  Right now
> > honesty and integrity is very low in this fledgling organization
> > a la the Jefsey-election farce/fraud.
> >
> >   Nobody in their right mind is going to pay a membership fee
> > unless and until absolute honesty and integrity is obvious.
> >
> > Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> >> While I concur here, I add, money is money and building a large base
> >> is the best way to get sponsors and sponsors are the best way to build
> >> a base. We move inside to inside then inside to outside and remember
> >> that marketing is education and education is marketing.
> >> eric
> >>
> >> > I think you're right Paul
> >> >
> >> > The only peripheral 'sweeteners' for contributing money should be
> >> > things like a public acknowledgement, or a webpage profile, or
> >> > advertising, or things which do not effect the fundamental all-equal
> >> > democratic impulse for a bottom-up users' organisation
> >> >
> >> > Membership itself - and particularly the right to participate and
> >> > vote - should be open to all... the other way we will put off
> >> > thousands, and devalue the real strength of our democratic argument
> >> >
> >> > We should avoid - at all costs - "being like them"... if you play
> >> > their game by their rules, they always win!
> >> >
> >> > We should not be a sophisticated club, we should be a people's
> >> > movement - a people's movement full of information and driven by the
> >> > case for democratic representation in the way *our* internet is
> >> > administered
> >> >
> >> > Yrs,
> >> >
> >> > Richard H
> >> >
> >>
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> > Regards,
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> > Jeffrey A. Williams
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> >     Pierre Abelard
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard
===============================================================
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801



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