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(Fwd) FC: G8 complains of digital havens; French hate "unfettered freedom"

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Date sent:      	Mon, 15 May 2000 11:20:20 -0400
To:             	politech@vorlon.mit.edu
From:           	Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
Subject:        	FC: G8 complains of digital havens; French hate "unfettered
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[As an experiment, I'm going to try to follow the G8 meeting this week
from afar here on politech. If you have info that might be relevant,
please forward. Thanks, Declan]



By Tom Heneghan
PARIS, May 13 (Reuters) - The world's leading industrialised states,
struggling against Love Bug-style computer attacks from the most
unexpected places, opened a cybercrime conference on Monday with a
call to prevent lawless "digital havens" from springing up around the
globe. French Interior Minister Jean-Pierre Chevenement, addressing
officials from the Group of Eight (G8) nations and private industry,
urged countries to agree on a world convention on cybercrime and
harmonise their laws to crack down on hackers, virus writers, software
pirates and other Internet fraudsters. [...] Drawing a parallel to
international measures against tax havens that hide hot funds and
launder money, Chevenement said a cybercrime convention being drawn up
by the Strasbourg-based Council of Europe should become a global
treaty. "The idea is to produce a global text so there cannot be
'digital havens' or 'Internet havens' where anyone planning some shady
business could find the facilities to do it," he said. [...] In his
speech, Chevenement highlighted the trans-Atlantic gap by rejecting
the idea of an international "cyberpolice" supported by U.S. officials
eager to crack down quickly on computer crime. "Nothing could be more
wrong," he declared. "Sovereign states can develop the capacity to
act, first at home and then in international cooperation." French
Prime Minister Lionel Jospin said in a message to the conference that
"freedom is the most precious gift the Internet brings us." All states
should "fight the digital divide" between high-tech haves and
have-nots, he said, but at the same time "restrain the excesses of an
unfettered freedom." [...]


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:11:01 -0400
To: declan@well.com
From: Holly Porteous <hporteous@ewa-canada.com>
Subject: An article on G8 cybercrime activities

Dear Declan:

I saw your request for info on the Paris G8 conference.  Here's a
CanCERT Bulletin interview I conducted with a Canadian Department of
Justice official that might provide you with some background.  I write
the Bulletin for EWA-Canada and expect to be writing more on the G8's

BTW, if the link below doesn't work, just go to our website at
www.ewa-canada.com and look in the News/Editorial section.

Here's the link for the "G8 Talks Traceback" article...
Holly Porteous, Senior Analyst



G-8 Talks Traceback in Moscow

by Holly Porteous

On October 19-20, G-8 justice and interior ministers met in Moscow to
reach an agreement on practical measures to combat transnational
organised crime, including high-tech crime. The results of this
meeting are likely to have far-reaching implications for both the
Internet Service Provider and telecommunications industries.

Known as the "Lyon Group," the ministers^ conference moves the G-8
into the endgame of a two-year effort to implement its action plan on
computer-based crime. The action plan, adopted at the Lyon Group^s
first meeting in 1997 in Washington, DC, called for an international,
24/7 network for rapid incident response and national legislation to
enable prosecution of cyber-criminals who commit their crimes from
foreign soil.

Since 1997, the G-8 has stood up the 24/7 network but  without the
legal means to access cross-border communications and data  its
operational effectiveness is bound to be limited. This is why the
legislative process set in action by the Moscow delegates^ adoption
of "Principles on Transborder Access to Stored Computer Data" is being
hailed as a major advance.

These principles represent an agreement by the G-8 members (Canada,
the United States, the United Kingdom, Japan, France, Germany, Italy
and Russia) to offer each other expedited legal assistance in
accessing, searching, copying, seizing and disclosing data connected
with criminal activities. [...]

Because it sets the stage for talks with industry, the G-8 members^
agreement to undertake measures to ensure rapid preservation of data
stored in computer systems  referred to in short-hand as "freeze and
preserve"  is perhaps the most significant among the adopted

In essence, by agreeing to the idea of "freeze and preserve," the G-8
members have agreed to begin drafting national legislation that will
require ISPs and telcos to maintain, preserve and hand over audit log
files to law enforcement agencies that have lawful authority to
request them. Audit log files record selected activity on the
provider^s networks and servers, thus forming the basis for both
security monitoring and billing. While many (but not all) providers
preserve log files, among the G-8 there are no uniform regulations for
the format of these files or for the duration of their storage.



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