Re: [ICANN-EU] Installing the New Charter.

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all,

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> Jeff asks for a formal definition of consensus.

  No I ask for a definition of "Rough Consensus".  I also ask
for a determination as to how "Rough Consensus" is reached or
decided/determined.  What method, in other words?

>
>
> As this question has been discussed, could we formalize it this way:
>
> -  consensus is when there is no objection. Ex. BC/DNSO broadcasts
>     a document calling for comments withing 10 days otherwise the
>     document is adopted.

  Hummm?  Not a good method.

>
>
> -  rough consensus is when there are objections, but no veto. When
>     there is a rough consensus it is possible to keep working toward a
>     consensus.

  Ok good.  But how it "Rough Consensus" determined?  What method?

>
>
> The problem is to decide about what is a veto, ie the seriousness
> of an objection. I would propose a Jury to be attached to the ML:
> their role would be to accept the seriousness of an objection not
> to judge it. Only one acknowledgement by one from the Jury would
> be enough. The Jury is part of the quality/interest of the ML and the
> Members  should be chosen by the owner, the owner could be part
> of them.

  Shouldn't this "Jury" you suggest be determined by the list members?

>
>
> Jefsey
>
> At 07:23 10/10/00, you wrote:
> >Thomas and all,
> >
> >   For the purposes of this mailing list charter for the EU, what is the
> >definition of "Rough Consensus"?  How or is it measured?  What
> >method is used to determine "Rough Consensus"?
> >
> >Thomas Roessler wrote:
> >
> > > I'd suggest that we should install the new charter as soon as
> > > possible.  The last draft is available from this address:
> > >
> > >
> > ftp://fitug.fitug.de/pub/icann-drafts/draft-roessler-icann-europe-charter-20000911.txt
> > >
> > > If you have any objections, please raise them now.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thomas Roessler                         <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> >
> >Regards,
> >
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