[icann-eu] Fw: [IMC-Tech] Fw: ICANN Leaders Promoting IPv6 and its PRIVACY PROBLEM

["JIM FLEMING" <jfleming@anet.com>]

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From: JIM FLEMING <jfleming@anet.com>
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Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 9:00 PM
Subject: Fw: [IMC-Tech] Fw: ICANN Leaders Promoting IPv6 and its PRIVACY
PROBLEM


> Ken,
>
> By the way, the ICANN endorsement of IPv6 with its Privacy Problem,
> in my opinion, is a true indication that you folks have no business being
> near the Internet, or society at large.
>
> It is one thing to make yourselves look like fools in selecting, what some
> think are, silly names. It is another to endorse technology which will end
> up
> harming small children. I truely hope that parents remember who is or
> was on the ICANN Board.
>
> It is amazing that your collective arrogance allows you to ignore your
> social responsibilities.
>
> Jim Fleming
> http://www.unir.com/images/architech.gif
> http://www.unir.com/images/address.gif
> http://www.unir.com/images/headers.gif
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: JIM FLEMING <jfleming@anet.com>
> To: Paul A. Houle <paul@honeylocust.com>
> Cc: <imc-tech@indymedia.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [IMC-Tech] Fw: ICANN Leaders Promoting IPv6 and its PRIVACY
> PROBLEM
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul A. Houle <paul@honeylocust.com>
> >
> > >      You think IPv6 is bad,  just take some money out of the bank or
the
> > > ATM.  Take a look at the serial numbers -- they're in order.  If you
get
> > > arrested with $2300 in your pockets,  the police can punch the numbers
> > > into a computer and find out what bank account that money came out of.
> > >
> >
> > You are correct, in some cases, technology can be used for "good".
> > DNA tracking might be another example. Some people may prefer that we
> > have more accurate tracking, so that people like OJ are easier to
convict.
> >
> > Some people might also argue that the hardware serial id (MAC address)
> > inside your PC or lap-top should be in each packet you send (as is the
> case
> > with IPv6). Others are now saying, No, your phone number is a better
> > choice and they are working to have that placed in the IPv6 packets,
> instead
> > of the hardware serial ID of your PC.
> >
>
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipngwg-addrconf-privacy-03.tx
> > t
> >
> > My point is that I think that people should KNOW what is being placed in
> > their IPv6 packets. IPv8 has been designed so that you know what is in
> there
> > and you can control what is in there. The IPv6 people come from the
> mind-set
> > that they know what is best for you.
> >
> > With IPv6 you might "inherit" another person's digital fingerprints.
> Imagine
> > buying a used lap-top and not knowing where it has been and then you
> > start surfing the net only to find someone knocking at your door from a
> > law-enforcement agency that was waiting for you to "emerge". This of
> course
> > works the other way, someone could make their PC "look" like yours,
while
> > you are sleeping. It could be expensive for you to convince clueless law
> > enforcement officials who are SURE it was you who did something, when,
> > in fact, it was one of the hackers who helped design IPv6.
> >
> > We could go on and on, my point is that people should KNOW what is
> > in their IPv6 packets and they (or their ISP they trust) should have
> control
> > of what is in there. Beyond these basic rights, I do not think it is a
> good
> > idea for IPv6 packets to have hardware ids in them because people can
> > deduce the make, model, and value of your equipment. Geeks designing
> > IPv6 think that is "cool". They can scan data centers and learn about
all
> > of the cool equipment. They forget people will also scan people's houses
> > to find out the value of the TVs and stereos, etc. etc. etc.
> >
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.unir.com/images/architech.gif
> > http://www.unir.com/images/address.gif
> > http://www.unir.com/images/headers.gif
> > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp
> >
> >
>