Re: [ICANN-EU] IPv6, was: re-chartering this list: draft.

[520066262227-0001@t-online.de (Christoph)]

Hi,

Guenter.Hack@unisg.ch wrote:
> *Lutz Donnerhacke wrote
> > [numerous derogatory textbits referring to J. Hofmann]
> 
> Lutz, please stop cybermobbing Mrs. Hofmann in your postings. Permanently
> reverting to tounge-in-cheek irony and non-suitable acidulous remarks does
> definitely not help spreading and getting support for your otherwise interesting
> ideas.

Am I reading another list than you do ?

While Lutz certainly puts some flesh to the debate now that
he isn't in the race any more, I think 'cybermobbing' is 
badly overstated here. Quite gross, actually.

The problem with Jeanette is that I'm quite uneasy about her
whole standing without beeing able to pinpoint exactly where the 
issue is. So anything that gets it more to the point is helpful 
in my opinion. 

Jeanette's main qualification is observing and understanding IETF's 
inner workings. And, as far as I have read that, she has written
quite some interesting stuff about that.

But not only she doesn't really understand what she is talking 
wrt the technology involved (see her interview where she sells
Van Jacobson slow start as the 'sliding windows protocol') but I'm
not sure if she actually understands how technology and the people
running it work together in that big machine we call 'the internet'.

Take, for instance, Lutz' claim that new TLDs won't solve any 
problem. While you might not like that - in fact, I don't like it
either - he's probably right. The problems we face now with the DNS
system are nearly 100% externally caused (mostly by a mix of bad
court decisions and legal theories and bad administrative practice),
and we can create new TLDs until we are blue in the face, these 
problems won't go away.

This reflects an age old wisdom of system administration - there
are no technical solutions for social problems. With her background
Jeanette should be fond of that - but apparantly this point is 
completely lost on her.

Another example is Jeanette's ideas abou how standardization
works. Lutz very early made the point that the authority of 
organizations like ICANN derive from the technical quality 
of their results. Bad standards are not accepted in the market.
Again Jeanette disagreed, somehow, with some fluff remarks
on the influence of techs, without that I really 
understood her counterposition.

Admittedly, just two examples. But I think this is worth 
asking. Lutz is right doing so.

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr