RE: [ICANN-EU] Re: Register.com snaps up Afternic.com

["McMeikan, Andrew" <andrew.mcmeikan@mitswa.com.au>]

There is some discussion at http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DomainDisputes you can
add to it if you wish.

	cya,	Andrew...

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jefsey Morfin [SMTP:jefsey@wanadoo.fr]
> Sent:	Saturday, 16 September 2000 16:01
> To:	icann-europe@fitug.de
> Subject:	Re: [ICANN-EU] Re: Register.com snaps up Afternic.com
> 
> Thank you for this information. I wander if someone can tell us :
> what cybersquatting really is 
> -  technically
> -  from the point of view of a cybersquatter
> -  from the point of view of a lawyer 
> I understand there is a Cybersquatting Act : is it enacted or is it
> still a proposition? In it there is a definition of the one giver by
> VeriSign-FRS in heir FAQ '( <http://verisign-grs.com/>) 
> I am interested in building a serious documentation under the
> <http://boadacioius-tatas.net/> site we (a few together from this ML)
> decided to build to help parties involved in an UDRP.
> Jefsey
> 
> At 07:57 16/09/00, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 	Christopher and all, 
> 	
> 	  Well researched and well stated piece here Christopher.  I hope 
> 	others read it carefully.  Did you happen to send this to the WIPO 
> 	Process2 list?  If not possibly you should. 
> 	
> 	Christopher Stewart wrote: 
> 	
> 
> 		However, it must also be pointed out that Afternic.com sued
> ICANN over their 
> 		refusal to accredit the company and later agreed to terms
> that would allow 
> 		Afternic to become an accredited registrar under a
> subsidiary called 
> 		eXtraActive, Inc. 
> 		
> 	
> <http://www.domainnotes.com/news/article/1,2160,3371_414521,00.html> 
> 		
> 		As well, according to Register.com's financial records it
> owns a 10% stake 
> 		in GreatDomains.com(a domain broker). This was as of last
> quarter so I 
> 		cannot confirm that it still does. 
> 		
> 		I think the issue will not be about "cybersquatting" ,
> referring to the 
> 		Afternic.com/Register.com deal. NetworkSolutions.com offers
> a site to list 
> 		domains for sale via 
> 		
> 		<http://webdomain.networksolutions.com/buyers.cfm> 
> 		
> 		AFternic.com does not 'Sell' the domain persay, they merely
> act as a 
> 		facilitator to allow sales to occur, much like the Network
> Solutions site. 
> 		In both circumstances neither company is being held
> responsible for third 
> 		party negligence or ignorance towards the UDRP. 
> 		
> 		I do not intend this comment towards Patrick and appreciate
> his candor in 
> 		posting this tidbit of info, however, often the point of
> contention is a 
> 		lack of understanding within the domain community about
> EXACTLY what 
> 		services these companies offer (Afternic.com and
> Greatdomains.com). Instead, 
> 		selling a domain is labelled as "cybersquatting" by default
> rather than a 
> 		commercial exchange governed by the same laws as any other
> commercial 
> 		exchange. The term 'cybersquatter' is frequently misused and
> defined 
> 		incorrectly, thus leaving those in this community and the
> internet community 
> 		as whole with a bad taste in their mouth whenever 'domain
> selling' is 
> 		mentioned. 
> 		
> 		Too many examples of WIPO injustice could be referenced
> here. In fact, it 
> 		seems that just 'owning' (or being the registrant) of a
> domain is construed 
> 		as cybersquatting, less the attempt to sell -- which
> flabergasts us all I 
> 		hope! 
> 		
> 		Regards. 
> 		Chris 
> 		
> 		>From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@QUAD.NET.AU> 
> 		>Reply-To: Patrick Corliss <patrick@QUAD.NET.AU> 
> 		>To: DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.NETSOL.COM 
> 		>Subject: Register.com snaps up Afternic.com 
> 		>Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:14:38 +1000 
> 		> 
> 		>Thanks to Ross Wm. Rader of OpenSRS for reminding us of the
> implications of 
> 		>this story on their discuss-list@opensrs.org where he
> wrote: 
> 		> 
> 		> > As far as ICANN goes, we can only conjecture what their
> next actions 
> 		>will 
> 		> > be. They have officially stated for the record that they
> will under no 
> 		> > circumstances accredit a firm that actively engages in,
> or knowingly 
> 		> > facilitates cybersquatting. Further, they denied
> accreditation to 
> 		>AfterNIC 
> 		> > on this basis. Bystanders can only assume that they will
> review 
> 		> > Register.com's accreditation in light of this new
> information. 
> 		> 
> 		>
> <http://www.zdii.com/industry_list.asp?mode=news&doc_id=ZE505618> 
> 		> 
> 		>Register.com snaps up Afternic.com 
> 		> 
> 		>By Tiffany Kary ZDII 
> 		> 
> 		>Internet domain name registrar Register.com, Inc. (Nasdaq:
> RCOM) said 
> 		>Friday 
> 		>it will buy Afternic.com, a provider of domain name resale
> services for 
> 		>4.38 
> 		>million shares of common stock and $10 million in cash. 
> 		> 
> 		> 
> 		>Regards 
> 		>Patrick Corliss 
> 		
> 	
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