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Re: [icann-eu] draft-tlr-study-03.txt (was: LAST CALL)
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- Subject: Re: [icann-eu] draft-tlr-study-03.txt (was: LAST CALL)
- From: Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>
- Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 05:01:53 +0100
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Thomas,
I waited you had well prepared your draft study to comment it.
1. my current involvement in ccTLDs issues did not give me time
to do otherwise
2. France@large is meeting only tomorrow to discuss that point.
I apologize for my negative comments to follow. Please understand
that I agree and applaud to everything which is not mentioned here,
and that critics on one point take some room :-)
and that critics are really easy when you do not do the work ....
1. I do not understand why the Staff would be thanked to interfere.
ICANN is not directed by Staff but by the current BoD. It happens
that by several maneuvers prepared by bylaws changes we are in
a situation where the ambitions of a few may lead to the ICANN
collapse. Through this study, through gTLD absurd management,
through total lack of understanding of the iDNs issues, through an
incredible contempt at their non American partners.
I accept you try to do your job and try to work a solution for this
study from this mess, as I try to do it in some other parts. But
please do not start thanking them for that! Tell them that what
is to follow is a firm and peaceful presentation, and that any
trespassing will incur atomic response.
2. You cannot have a clean-sheet approach and limit yourself
to a representation of the users interests (what you present as
the maximum possibility). The organization of the @large in
many different fields must be considered. ff we are in a clean-
sheet approach we must start asking if there must be 0 or 19
@large Directors. And then document why we think appropriate
with the founders of the ICANN there are only 9 or 10 of them.
3. I am not sure I understand the sentence about a constellation.
I do not grasp the English meaning of it: what is the constellation
in here?
4. When you talk about "current board" structure, I suppose
you mean 9+1+9. They will understand 5 elected @large +
4 selected @large.
5. The phrase "and that five of them continue to be elected
directly" is to be removed to reflect the truth.
6. I know that in your+jeannette list of points the demands
concerning the @large directors elections were not very
demanding. But the position of the list and of the GA is
clear: "9 @large directors elected" ASAP, the "4 squatters
out" and "as soon elected as soon seated".
I do not understand the reasoning of your position: you
should explain if you think you have a good reason.
7. If I read you well Hans Kraaijenbrink + Matsamu Katoh
is your favorite ticket for handling the Study. I think we
should be clear: no current Director should be involved
in a study concerning other Directors. If experience is
to be found, it should be looked for among former Directors.
8. I understand you want Jeannette to participate to the
study, but your suggestion is too transparent. The study
team should meet and report on the @large groups, initiatives,
development, sites, etc... existing or currently developing.
(the study will be carried 3 to 9 months from now).
9. You seem to presuppose that the Chair or the co-Chairs
will biased against @large (ie against the USG position)
and you plead for a solutions to deal with that. I think
the prerequisites are:
- every Chair and co-Chair to be unbiased
- to represent a world area
- the Chair (and the future ICANN President also) not to
be of the same citizenship as the ICANN Chair.
The text you propose seems to be otherwise a good introduction
but it focuses on the least important and pragmatic issues
(the one the Staff proposed, which probably wants an
unproductive result as it has no funding and wants time to advise).
There are certainly many issues I do not cover down here, but which
belongs to such a preparatory document as:
10. The study should start with the analysis of the @large
existing reality, if it exists.
Then to define its boarders.
The number of concerned people and the minimum
proportion to obtain representation
permanent affiliation
What are their components and structures
What is its real nature (we know in France they are the
real owners of the whole game as user and producers)
11. The constituencies should be defined: are 5 geographical
areas the only possible splits? Under representation
of South Pacific, India ....
12. Should we not have a two step election with an international
user group, where every country is represented (including UK,
France, Germany, NZ, Australia, Canada, Mexico, Austria,
Luxembourg, etc...) and the Directors are elected? On which
electing system?
13. What is the target/part of the @large representation in the
equilibrium of the ICANN and its survivability
14. How the @large - who represent the market - may benefit
to the operators gathered in the SO constituencies?
15. Which kind of power balancing could be reached within
the ICANN in using the @large capacities.
16. Which changes in the ICANN structures should be contemplated
due to the emergence of the @large:
- IDNO representation
- replacement of the DNSO/GA
- presence of the @large within the LIC near the ccTLDs
- relations between the @large and the gTLDs
- @large TLDs
17. relations of the @large with the other governance institutions
(IEFT, WIPO, ...or parallel institutions (media, TV, Telephone,
games, etc...)
18. Financing of the @large related issues.
19. Permanent polling of the @large positions. Relations with
the board, etc....
20. Risks of the @large taking over the ICANN through:
- NICs
- UN or GAC
- self organization
- scenarii: ICANN failure, lack of result of the CRADA
market development supporting @large development
etc...
21. Elections practical systems, Past errors, concepts for
the future. Polling booth.
I know I change the spirit of your document. Did you work
with hans Klein on it? The ICC should help you and participate.
You take all the work on your shoulder, I am sorry I can only
criticize and I have no time to help. We will discuss that tomorrow
at France@large and see if some of us could contribute or if all
of them are too much disapointed with the ICANN.
Sursum Corda.
Jefsey