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Re: [icann-eu] LAST CALL: Study Committee Comments.
- To: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>, Vittorio Bertola <vb@vitaminic.net>
- Subject: Re: [icann-eu] LAST CALL: Study Committee Comments.
- From: "Cameron Smith" <cameron_smith@mail.com>
- Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 16:11:55 -0000
- CC: Barbara Simons <simons@acm.org>, icann-europe@fitug.de
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I agree with Vittorio here about being wary of rushing to create an
@large advisory council. Comments below...
> From: Vittorio Bertola <vb@vitaminic.net>
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:56:17 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >there seems to be a large consensus that some kind of at large
> >advisory council should be created. Such a council could, for
> >instance, be used to elect part of the directors.
>
> I'd be very, very careful in advancing such thesis. We have already been
> accused of being "membership-squatters", a bunch of self-nominated persons
> who are trying to hijack the membership and claim their representativity
> without basis. Trying to revert the direct election approach would easily
> create open and wide opposition inside the membership to our effort, which
> is the last thing we can afford.
This is a very good point. The argument that pressure groups do
not represent civil society/their constituency but are merely a vocal
minority is often used by corporations and governments when they
are trying to ignore pressure groups. It may be an insidious
argument but its a very effective one.
> I'd stay with the point that all nine Directors must be elected by the
> membership, period. I can't see how admitting an indirect election could
> help our cause now.
Agreed. We have a very strong case in demanding this, many
ICANN-watchers and readers of news about the Internet are aware
of the 'board-squatters' issue, in contrast to the 'new' and less
widely-understood idea of an '@large council'.
> I'd also say, more generally speaking, that we must show that we want to
> serve the membership, and not the opposite. This is also one of the reasons
> why I proposed to state that any conclusions drawn from the Study should be
> subject to a direct, general consultory vote among the membership, which
> should not bind the actions of the Board, but should make it clear whether
> any action that could be taken by the Board has or does not have consensus
> among the At Large community. Again, I think that it would be very difficult
> for the Board, from the point of view of public relations, to take decisions
> such as the elimination of some or all At Large Directors if it is clearly
> proven that the Internet community is against them. The only real strength
> we have is the number and variety of our members - so let's use it to defend
> ourselves.
A good sentiment. However if we call for a vote and only a tiny
percentage of the @large membership participate, does that show
that we have membership support? Or could it be used against us
to say that 'no one cares about your idea?'. I suppose on balance
it is better to have such a plebiscite, as then we cannot be
accused of denying a voice to the 'silent majority'.
cameron smith