[icann-europe] RE: [ecdiscuss] Re: [icann-europe] European Root Server System

["Christian de Larrinaga" <cdel@firsthand.net>]

Jeff

many thanks for the draft link. there is RFC 3258 by Ted Hardie Distributing
Authoritative Name Servers
April 2002.


Christian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 09:08
> To: cdel@firsthand.net
> Cc: Vittorio Bertola; Jefsey Morfin; icann-europe@lists.fitug.de;
> ecdiscuss@ec-pop.org
> Subject: Re: [ecdiscuss] Re: [icann-europe] European Root Server System
>
>
> Christian and all,
>
> Christian de Larrinaga wrote:
>
> > Jeff you are at cross purposes to the subject. I was simply
> saying security
> > is weakened if the DNS implementation permits the same name to
> be registered
> > multiple times. This is true for distributed as well as hierarchical DNS
> > delegation topologies.
>
>   Yes you would be correct except that Multi-Roots and SROOTS does
> not permit the same name to be registered on separate or multiple
> root structures.
>
> >
> >
> > This was a theoretical fear until proven by .biz and others.
> >
> > If you have some running code for a distributed architecture
> that can scale
> > well beyond 800+ to say 800 million or even better still to
> several billion
> > and maintain universality, support for all dependant applications of DNS
> > then we should see that RFC from you.
>
>   The RFC is not yet available.  But and IETF document is as well as
> several private sector efforts.
> See:http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsop-ohta-s
> hared-root-server-01.txt
>
> for some basic background.
>
> >
> >
> > Christian
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 03:47
> > > To: cdel@firsthand.net
> > > Cc: Vittorio Bertola; Jefsey Morfin; icann-europe@lists.fitug.de;
> > > ecdiscuss@ec-pop.org
> > > Subject: Re: [ecdiscuss] Re: [icann-europe] European Root
> Server System
> > >
> > >
> > > Christian and all,
> > >
> > > Christian de Larrinaga wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Root servers are assigned to where there is most traffic flow.
> > > >
> > > > Increase your traffic flow locally and you increase the
> > > likelyhood of having
> > > > local root servers.  If you want an A root delegation then we
> > > have to see
> > > > ccTLD's and ICANN come to terms as a first precondition.
> > > >
> > > > If we split into separate roots then we split the internet, increase
> > > > security risks and lose universality.
> > >
> > >   Actually the opposite is true Christian.  With S-Roots (Shared Root)
> > > you have increased security and no single point of failure as well.
> > > Same is true with Shared Registries for DNS.  Some 800+ name
> > > servers are already running one of another version of "Shared Roots"
> > > with modified Bind now from my last count..  We also already have
> > > Inclusive and Competitive Registries such as ORSC which has been
> > > around for several years now and can be linked in on Shared
> > > Roots at any time...
> > >
> > > > So a bad idea for europe, africa asia
> > > > and americas including the Pentagon.
> > > >
> > > > Christian de Larrinaga
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Vittorio Bertola [mailto:vb@vitaminic.net]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:31
> > > > > To: Jefsey Morfin
> > > > > Cc: icann-europe@lists.fitug.de; ecdiscuss@ec-pop.org
> > > > > Subject: [ecdiscuss] Re: [icann-europe] European Root
> Server System
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 19:22:33 +0200, Jefsey Morfin
> <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I am interested in the cond and pros about a European parallel
> > > > > root sever
> > > > > >system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >IMHO the current US cybersecurity study of Richard Clarke
> > > will show the
> > > > > >need that the Pentagon has claimed a few times already of an
> > > all US root
> > > > > >server system. I think we should consider our own root server
> > > > > system as a
> > > > > >contingency plan.
> > > > >
> > > > > I absolutely don't like the idea of breaking the Internet
> in parts,
> > > > > but given that the Internet is now a vital infrastructure for
> > > > > economical development and for national security, it doesn't seem
> > > > > likely that the US government releases any control over it in the
> > > > > short term, even if to a true international organisation,
> and I don't
> > > > > think that the EU should continue accepting the US ruling over it,
> > > > > especially in the present situation where US delegates a
> part of it to
> > > > > ICANN which in turns not only fails, but actively refuses to grant
> > > > > adequate representation to the public in general, and to
> establish any
> > > > > real means of participation for non-English-speaking communities.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I think that the EU should set up both a parallel root
> system and a
> > > > > parallel organisation to ICANN (at least, to the current
> US-controlled
> > > > > ICANN), and then such organisation and US-ICANN could agree to
> > > > > maintain the two systems synchronised, or even to
> establish a small
> > > > > overlying council to decide worldwide policy when
> necessary (based on
> > > > > the principle that decisions should be taken locally as much as
> > > > > possible). So the EU root, in case of need, could be used in the
> > > > > interest of European citizens and economies - not, when
> they collide,
> > > > > in the interest of the US ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > My opinion, of course, might change if ICANN became a
> truely open and
> > > > > international organization. But anyway, I feel the need for a
> > > > > "detachable" European set of servers in case Europe ever needed to
> > > > > claim its independence.
> > > > > --
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> > > > > Vittorio Bertola     <vb@vitaminic.net>    Ph. +39 011 23381220
> > > > > Vitaminic [The Music Evolution] - Vice President for Technology
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> > >
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> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
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> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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