[icann-europe] RE: [ecdiscuss] Re: [icann-europe] European Root Server System

[Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>]

I cannot agree more on the necessity to internationalize.

As a first step I would encourage you all to watch the divestment
of Dor Org to a new gTLD Registry. There is 3 millions domain names,
18 millions US dollar per annum for Registry share (today VeriSign).
I have no idea how many domain names has been sold for more than
one year - the subsequent question is if the new Dot Org registry
will be reimboursed on prorata of time base, or if the new Dot Org 
will work for free.
Please comment on the RFP draft which be published by 1st May.

Roberto - let me add to your list two items, on IP addresses 
and on rootservers distribution.

While all 3 RIRs seem to have similar practices (they made a study),
one may observe that before 2001, in 3 years 1998 a 2000,
the distribution of 8 Address Blocks was:
          7 to the US+ (ARIN), 
          1 to Europe+ (RIPE),
          0 to AsiaPac (APNIC)
namely (http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space) :

214/8           US-DOD                                  Mar 98
215/8           US-DOD                                  Mar 98
216/8           ARIN - North America                    Apr 98
213/8           RIPE NCC - Europe                       Mar 99
064/8           ARIN                                    Jul 99
036/8           IANA - Reserved                         Jul 00
065/8           ARIN                                    Jul 00
066/8           ARIN                                    Jul 00

080/8           RIPE NCC                                Apr 01
081/8           RIPE NCC                                Apr 01
024/8           ARIN - Cable Block                      May 01
067/8           ARIN                                    May 01
068/8           ARIN                                    Jun 01
219/8           APNIC                                   Sep 01
220/8           APNIC                                   Dec 01

You may note that RIRs have been complaining:
http://www.icann.org/committees/reconsideration/wilson-request-10mar00.htm

Also that the RIRs statement issued yesterday:
http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/regional/rir-statement-24042002.pdf
includes:
  "10. The RIRs see no absolute requirement to have a two level address
  management process of initial allocations to RIRs and subsequent
  allocations from RIRs to local registries and end users, and wish to
  understand whether an approach of RIR management of the unallocated
  address resources would support a more efficient management process with
  adequate safeguards regarding longer term stewardship of the address
  resource."


The unique A root server under control is a Good Thing, but 
why a dozen of servers, each of them an exact copy of A, should 
be forever where they are (hazard of initial deployment) and built
in with bricks ?
Would it be really a crime of lese-majeste to imagine that
a set of criterias for a cloud of root servers be drafted and an RFP
issued ? (yes, yes I know it must be where the connectivity is,
but do not tell me Europe should not have 5 root servers - why do
you think there is such a density of cables under Atlantic ?)

One shall not forget that gTLD names servers galaxy (13 name servers
by VeriSign and accredited Registrars ?) is also a very significant 
element of Internet *international* space, Have you seen the map ?
You may read last week announcement (18 April) about one of 
13 gTLD servers moving to Florida and how important it is:
cf. http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc10/msg00084.html 
(South Florida Lands Key Internet Name Directory Server)

The Internet engineers gave to the world an extremely powerful
system of universal numbering and naming, which, added to the web
and other applications became a fascinating powerful political
tool for management - with a possibility for global management.

On one side there are IP numbers, domain names and taxonomy,
on the other it goes into the whole society and its capability
of organization, databases of ressources, electronic commerce,
ID cards, democratic votes, legal systems, tax collection.

The stewardship of such meaningful Internet imply distribution.

Best regards,
Elisabeth Porteneuve

====Original Message================================================
From: R.Gaetano@iaea.org
To: mally@mally.net
Cc: icann-europe@lists.fitug.de, ecdiscuss@ec-pop.org
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:53:28 +0200
Subject: RE: [ecdiscuss] Re: [icann-europe] European Root Server System

Mally Mclane wrote:

> 
> no!
> 
> root = one.
> 
> You would end up with a horribly unsynchronised internet, with not the
> whole thing viewable in the whole world. The internet works 
> fine as it, I
> don't think the USA practices too much control over the 
> root/ICANN, I dont
> see a need to change it.
> 


I also agree that the root should be unique, but I have to admit that the
USA *does* practice way too much control over the root/ICANN, I *do see* the
need for a change.
Examples:
- All 4 top managers of ICANN so far (2 CEOs and 2 Board Chair) are US
nationals - do you think that this is a coincidence?
- By directly subcontracting the management of the A-root, the US has
*complete* control of the root.
If this is not *too much*, I would like to know what in your view "too much"
would be.

The problem, though, cannot be solved with some form of "retaliation" like
have the European autonomous root: honestly, this would be far worse. But
the political problem of having international jurisdiction over key global
issues of the Internet should be solved, methinks. This does not mean to
build another international bureaucracy, although this could be seen as a
viable alternative to the present ICANN, but maybe to build in the present
ICANN some elements guaranteeing a better internationalization.

Regards
Roberto




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