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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Outreach : brainstorming ideas and looking for responses



OK Sotiris - though I don't think this is enough. What we need are
membership sites
that get tens of thousands of visitors because if you make joining an opt-in
type of process, then you have to make people want to select that radio
button.

What I suggest is that Opt-out is a better method and that we need some
higher profile sites than most of us have available to us here. The question
is how to make someone political smile on us in the process so that they
would want our opt-in/out button on their pages.

Todd



----- Original Message -----
From: "Sotiris Sotiropoulos" <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
To: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>; "atlarge discuss
list" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Outreach : brainstorming ideas and looking
for responses


> We can start by adding banners to sites under our own control.  If every
member
> of this organization who has a web site or two under their controlwere to
do
> this, we'd be off to a good start.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
> todd glassey wrote:
>
> > What we need to do is to cut some deals with the Registrars so that they
> > forward all newly registered DNS customers to us for registration as
part of
> > the At-Large community. We also need to setup some website kiosk wherein
we
> > can publicize what we are up to and our goals... Perhaps if we can get a
> > link from YAHOO or AOL we might be in better shape.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
> > To: <atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>
> > Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:05 AM
> > Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Outreach : brainstorming ideas and looking
for
> > responses
> >
> > Help
> > In order to claim that we represent ordinary users and the internet
public,
> > we need to increase our membership significantly. Otherwise we will be
> > marginalised as a minority group, whereas the constituency we seek to
> > promote and represent is in fact millions strong and deserves to have a
> > critical
> > executive role in the administration of the DNS and the future
development
> > of the Internet.
> >
> > ICANN being ICANN, the true voice of the internet majority will always
be
> > sidelined (particularly if it challenges ICANN policy) unless it
> > negotiates/determines from a position of numerical strength. Size of
> > membership
> > is what ICANN will most truly fear, because the larger and wider our
> > membership, the stronger our claim to be truly representative.
> >
> > Therefore, the premiss behind the ideas I'm posting (below) is that
> > mass-recruitment is essential, and that we broaden our remit beyond mere
> > "technical mission of ICANN" (which will never attract more than a few
> > thousand) to become an organisation upholding the interests of the
> > individual
> > in the Internet, ranging from the way it is run, to consumer issues, to
> > freedom
> > and justice. Only if we embrace the issue of "The Future of the
Internet" -
> > as it
> > impacts on individuals, families, communities with all their various
> > interests - will
> > we be relevant to many and grow significantly in numbers.
> >
> > The following Outreach ideas are not meant to be wholly rational and
> > "sensible"
> > in the first instance. They are intended to provoke thought, incite
comment,
> > and
> > are basically a brainstorming exercise so we can explore collectively
the
> > ways we
> > might achieve a broader membership. Some ideas you may quite like. Some,
you
> > may rule out completely.
> >
> > I take the view that most significant Outreach will take place at a
national
> > or local
> > level, and I regard it as axiomatic that we press forward with
establishing
> > representatives for each country, and websites to accompany that
> > representation
> > wherever possible.
> >
> > OUTREACH IDEAS:
> >
> > Possible points of access and recruitment:
> >
> > 1. Through University and College Internet Societies and IT departments,
> > with a
> > view to a student membership and network. This could be a worldwide
feature
> > of
> > our movement, but could be promoted best at national level, with a view
to
> > sending
> > speakers to various campuses. I believe in the idealism of young people,
and
> > they
> > are a vital recruitment zone.
> >
> > 2. Through Trade Union movements, interest groups, and
already-established
> > organisations at local and national level. We should demonstrate the
> > importance
> > of a "free" Internet run by people for people, not dominated by big
> > business.
> > We should demonstrate the link between organisations' interests and the
> > future
> > and freedom of the Internet. We should seek to affiliate with these
> > pre-existent
> > organisations and networks, and seek the representation and involvement
of
> > their
> > memberships. It may indeed be possible to 'capture' whole membership
lists
> > of
> > organisations, and link up via e-mail to significantly enlarge our
> > representation of
> > individuals.
> >
> > 3. Through a "map" approach, starting with the world, and divisible down
to
> > country and town level, seeking to encourage representation from every
town
> > that
> > has internet access (and indeed, indirectly, seeking representation from
> > those villages
> > and communities that don't). This would be a very graphic method of
> > demonstrating
> > our scale, scope and purpose - as an organisation speaking for ordinary
> > people from
> > every corner of the globe.
> >
> > 4. Through conventional coverage and development of links with press and
> > media,
> > working particularly at national and local level. Publicity and
Marketing
> > are essential,
> > and strategies should be consciously developed, targetting opportunities
and
> > planning
> > the timescale and levels of publicity which will be most beneficial.
> > However, we should
> > never fall into the trap of 'spin' superceding 'substance', and we
should
> > always put
> > integrity and truth before image and soundbite.
> >
> > 5. Identifying certain key movements, whether Green organisations,
> > religious/cultural
> > groups, UN organisations, commerce or small business groups. Working out
the
> > "interface" and common ground on which to approach them, and
demonstrating
> > how
> > the future of the internet (and its administration) is vital to them.
> >
> > 6. Negative strategies. I believe it would be very useful to analyse,
> > develop, and
> > summarise for publicity, some of the most glaring failures, abuses, and
> > controversies
> > ICANN and its close allies have been guilty of. This is all part of the
> > process of
> > conviction and argument and recruitment (rest assured, ICANN would not
> > hesitate
> > to do the same to us). Clearly, this negative sub-category would merely
be a
> > small
> > argument in our prevailing positive message.
> >
> > 7. "Themed" initiatives. For example, you develop an initiative called
> > "Schools of the
> > World" linking to the theme "Sharing the Future : the Internet for All
Our
> > Children".
> > In a similar vein to the "map" approach, you try to spread out and
involve
> > as many
> > schools worldwide as possible. (This would be facilitated if we
constructed
> > links with
> > eg Teachers' Unions etc.) We try to get a teacher representive (or more
than
> > one) and
> > we link to interest/education/freedom issues and information. Setting up
> > (from simple
> > beginnings) a global movement like this would extend the scope of our
> > membership,
> > the importance of a free internet for all children, and the great thing
> > about schools is
> > that they are so closely knitted into their communities in so many
places.
> >
> > 8. Club membership and affiliation : the world is full of clubs,
hobbies,
> > interests etc.
> > Set up lists of organisations, listed geographically and by
> > subject/category. Approach
> > clubs through national and local representatives. Explain how the
Internet
> > and its future
> > matters for them. Encourage even just ONE representative to join our
> > organisation
> > (and of course, develop from there to involve the rest of their
membership
> > list).
> >
> > 9. Exploiting the mass-following of sport worldwide. Sport is an
interface
> > which is
> > worldwide. It can be an image of worldwide friendship, involvement and
> > things we have
> > in common. And the Internet is a meeting place, a linking place, and a
place
> > for
> > supporters and players. Take Football for example : using the same "map"
> > method, you
> > could try to create a link and representative with as many clubs as
possible
> > in every
> > country on the planet... "The Internet Future : is YOUR club represented
> > yet?" Sport is
> > high-profile. Sport uses the Internet. Clubs may be willing to exchange
> > links. And
> > supporters might join up so that their own teams are represented in this
> > worldwide
> > process of representation.
> >
> > 10. Dialogue and Targetting Interested Parties. For example, analysis of
> > whois lists
> > enables me to see who are the most active domain registrants in the
.info
> > and .biz
> > roll-outs. Why not enter into dialogue with some of these? Similarly, at
> > local and
> > national level, why not analyse, identify and engage webmasters, IT
workers,
> > interested
> > groups or businesses? In this area we might not enrol such high numbers,
but
> > we would
> > be attracting a more informed group, and a membership with the kinds of
> > skills we
> > could use.
> >
> > CONCLUSION.
> >
> > If you've read all this, I applaud your stamina. You could probably
think of
> > another
> > 10 initiatives in place of these. What I'm doing here is more of a
"vision"
> > thing than a
> > "practical logistics" thing. And these ideas may be kicked into touch by
one
> > or all.
> > I'm just brainstorming.
> >
> > But the point I'm trying to make is : without a substantial membership,
our
> > influence is
> > limited and our claims can be marginalised in the very area we argue
most
> > strongly
> > - representation.
> >
> > And yet, if we broaden our scope a little, while keeping ICANN/DNS/"How
the
> > Internet is Run" as a central project, we can create the kind of scale
and
> > representation
> > (and global representation too) which ICANN knows will have the moral
> > authority to
> > demand representation and executive power.
> >
> > The Internet is a Worldwide resource for all the ordinary people of the
> > world. The
> > people of the world have a right to determine its development and its
> > future. That's
> > simple democracy. And much as Mr Sims loves to rule out "global
democracy"
> > along these lines, what we are proposing here is in fact something
> > idealistic and about
> > freedom and the reality - that the internet has truly become something
that
> > belongs to
> > ALL the people of the world. Its ideas, its dreams, its freedom, its
> > sorrows, its charities,
> > its projects... it is this power for such great good, and for bringing
> > ordinary individual
> > people together.
> >
> > The concept of global representation, and the right of the millions upon
> > millions of
> > ordinary people to have a priority over big business in the decisions
taken
> > over the
> > development of the Internet : this is an ideal which is waiting to be
turned
> > into a reality.
> > Because it is an ideal (and a beautiful ideal too, because the Internet
is
> > growing so
> > many creative opportunities for ordinary people) it will face opposition
> > from those tired,
> > grey, sordid power-brokers for whom the control of the net is more about
> > "control" and
> > "vested interest" and "power"...
> >
> > But the Internet has unleashed a different kind of power, creative,
> > democratic,
> > subversive of dishonesties and stolen power.
> >
> > So... however impractical some of my brainstorming ideas may seem... I
> > invite you to tell
> > ME, in reply, the ways YOU think we can "grow" a membership which truly,
> > and authoritatively, represents the interests of the ordinary people of
the
> > internet - millions
> > and millions of them.
> >
> > Faced with a movement that grows exponentially, and embraces openness
and
> > democracy,
> > ICANN will find it very hard indeed to exclude its greatest
constituency.
> >
> > Richard Henderson
> >
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