Re: [atlarge-discuss] 006 Deciding Name for Organisation

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joanna and all stakeholders or other interested parties,

  Indeed you are quite right here in your conclusion, Joanna...

  Perhaps a coined acronym who's letters of that acronym
are the first letters of the actual new name of our organization.
And example that has worked here is EFF = Electronic Frontiers
Foundation...

Joanna Lane wrote:

> Eric,
> You raise an important point here. Whatever we call ourselves, translation is a consideration. One of the names being suggested is "World At Large". What does this look like in other languages?
>
> Monde en général
> Welt in Freiheit
> Мир в целом
> Mundo en general
>
> What this tells me is that "At Large" has no intrinsic value to add to "world". They are both generalizations with no indication that we are an internet organization.
>
> Joanna
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: eric@hi-tek.com [mailto:eric@hi-tek.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 7:08 AM
> > To: Richard Henderson
> > Cc: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] 006 Deciding Name for Organisation
> >
> >
> > Richard,
> > I agree with ridding ourselves of the at-large handle.
> >
> > In the pursuit of outreach may I suggest a name that we here call
> > a cross-over.
> > Like;
> > Viva personas. Or Folksspreken.
> > (no these are not thought out suggestions just examples of a cross-over)
> >
> > Not necessarily proper in any language but easily recognized to
> > be inclusive of
> > several.
> > Just a thought.
> > Eric
> > Richard Henderson wrote:
> >
> > > The name of the organisation itself has to be a fairly urgent
> > "task" to be
> > > accomplished and determined by our members. It's linked,
> > perhaps, to Mission
> > > Statement - as some people may want the name of the
> > organisation to reflect
> > > a fairly broad mission (I favour this, to broaden membership and make us
> > > more truly representative) - while others want a narrower technical
> > > relationship to ICANN (in which case ICANN-style terms like @large may
> > > figure... personally I'd prefer we steer clear of this, but I may get
> > > outvoted)
> > >
> > > The reason the name issue is important is because we urgently need to
> > > commence "branding" our product, and we need press releases etc, and the
> > > sooner we have an agreed name the better.
> > >
> > > I'll kick this one off by arguing the case for a broad emotive
> > name which
> > > will capture the imagination of the public and the media - and support
> > > outreach to a broad membership. So I'm against yet another acronym or
> > > collection of letters. I personally dislike the mention of
> > @large because
> > > here in UK and many other places it means virtually nothing to ordinary
> > > people. Here in UK the only things that are described as at large are
> > > escaped prisoners and dangerous wild animals.
> > >
> > > So I favour the use of broad emotive titles. From my own domains I can
> > > offer:
> > >
> > > www.TheVoiceofThePeople.com
> > >
> > > which would sum up the representational character of our work
> > and the focus
> > > on democracy and ordinary people. Unfortunately the .org isn't available
> > >
> > > www.InternetParliament.com  and www.TheInternetParliament.com
> > >
> > > and I've also got one of the .orgs for that - OK it's a bit British
> > > sounding, but everyone knows what a parliament is. I admit I'm
> > not sure if
> > > either of these two work ... they're just what I've got
> > >
> > > You want something like "Internet For All" or "Internet Nation"
> > or whatever.
> > > Clearly you can be constrained by available domain names.
> > >
> > > I also favour keeping the @Large name as a sub-name on all websites, to
> > > position ourselves clearly in the @Large role in our demands
> > for seats on
> > > the ICANN Board. I think we can refer to ourselves again and again as
> > > "Worldwide@Large" as an identity we claim by right of the scale of
> > > representation we achieve. A twofold approach to our use of
> > names and terms
> > > might work.
> > >
> > > What processes do we apply to decide our name, and decide it soon? Do we
> > > make a list of all proposed names in this thread? Then do we ask the
> > > membership to vote from ??? 20 ??? suggestions. Then if there's no clear
> > > consensus, do we re-vote on the top 2 or 3?
> > >
> > > Ideas?
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> > > To: <espresso@e-scape.net>; <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 8:20 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] RE: [atlarge-panel] Fw: [atlarge-discuss]
> > > ALOC
> > >
> > > > > The big thing is for our Panel and anyone we delegate to
> > > > > participate in a particular discussion on our behalf to remember
> > > > > that they don't (at least, don't yet) have a mandate to *speak
> > > > > for* the membership. >
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is that the Panel may delegate representatives to
> > > relevant
> > > > fora as observers, but these individuals have no advocacy
> > role without a
> > > > mandate from the membership. At this moment in time we have 3
> > > > representatives in the ALOC. That's all. Personally, I would
> > like to see
> > > > delegates in every fora, not only in observer capacity, but
> > as advocates,
> > > > including every ICANN Task Force, but as others have said, if
> > we resolve
> > > one
> > > > issue per week, we are doing well.
> > > >
> > > > It would be helpful to have feedback from the membership on
> > what policy
> > > > issues they would like to address first. The Panel is working
> > on a list of
> > > > suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > Joanna
> > > >
> > > >
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